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Original Blade - rear shock rebuild/service possible?

Gíday,

Does anybody know if a rear shock unit from a 93 blade can be rebuilt / refurbished ? Iíve read in some bike mags that they are a Ďsealed unití and Ďplan to buy a new aftermarket oneí. This often means they are sealed unless you have the skills to open them up, refurb them, machine/ weld etc.

When I ask if itís possible, I mean by a skilled local suspension specialist company who deal with road, race suspension daily and are an official Ohlins dealer too. Iíve been told yes but just wanted to double checks this, rather than strip the bike down and remove the existing unit, only to be told itís not possible, when I turn up with it. From reading other threads i have picked up on the fact that it seems that the nitrogen bladder in the stock item is not rechargeable although it is possible to strip the shock and mount a 'conventional' bladder in there.

I plan to rebuild the rear suspension, bushes, bearings, re grease etc & overall the front forks too while Iím at it etc, over the winter here in Oz and want to know if I can have the rear shock re valved / serviced or whether I need to source a new rear shock. Yes we have a winter here and itís done nothing but piss it down with rain since I got back from the TT & Nurburgring L

The bike is in quite good original condition and I wish to keep it this way, if possible. The existing unit is very tired as you can imagine and I just wanted to freshen up the suspension i.e Iím not looking for a high performance shock, for serious use etc.

Any advice / experience on this matter would be greatly appreciated.


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Re: Original Blade - rear shock rebuild/service possible?

Hi. had mine rebuilt by a local specialist. It is a biger job than on some other shocks as it does have to have the bladder replaced. But once done, then it is easily rebuildable. It cost me £140 rather than the usual £100 (two years ago so add in inflation to that cost). Bt the shock was so much better and considerably cheaper than aftermarket replacement.
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Gíday,

Does anybody know if a rear shock unit from a 93 blade can be rebuilt / refurbished ? Iíve read in some bike mags that they are a Ďsealed unití and Ďplan to buy a new aftermarket oneí. This often means they are sealed unless you have the skills to open them up, refurb them, machine/ weld etc.

When I ask if itís possible, I mean by a skilled local suspension specialist company who deal with road, race suspension daily and are an official Ohlins dealer too. Iíve been told yes but just wanted to double checks this, rather than strip the bike down and remove the existing unit, only to be told itís not possible, when I turn up with it. From reading other threads i have picked up on the fact that it seems that the nitrogen bladder in the stock item is not rechargeable although it is possible to strip the shock and mount a 'conventional' bladder in there.

I plan to rebuild the rear suspension, bushes, bearings, re grease etc & overall the front forks too while Iím at it etc, over the winter here in Oz and want to know if I can have the rear shock re valved / serviced or whether I need to source a new rear shock. Yes we have a winter here and itís done nothing but piss it down with rain since I got back from the TT & Nurburgring L

The bike is in quite good original condition and I wish to keep it this way, if possible. The existing unit is very tired as you can imagine and I just wanted to freshen up the suspension i.e Iím not looking for a high performance shock, for serious use etc.

Any advice / experience on this matter would be greatly appreciated.


Thanks.

Anybody that claims to be a suspension specialist can rebuild it.
Been raining here too, been having a ball in it - although it has been a bit cold at night. I went through a flooded road a couple of weeks back. Was knee deep and filled my boots and gloves, came up over the screen and soaked me to the armpits! My leather hasn't had a chance to dry out in weeks :-)

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Re: Original Blade - rear shock rebuild/service possible?

Hey BladeR, you told me it never rained in Aus! I was going to disguise myself as a Vietnamese and get on your social, looks like I'll stick around here for a while, or at least 'till winter tries to eradicate all us useless old age pensioners.
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Hey BladeR, you told me it never rained in Aus! I was going to disguise myself as a Vietnamese and get on your social, looks like I'll stick around here for a while, or at least 'till winter tries to eradicate all us useless old age pensioners.

If it never rained I wouldn't hang around :-)
We actually have a very high rainfall here in Perth but we get it over a short period in bloody big storms. Melbourne gets it all year round as a depressing grey drizzle.

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Re: Original Blade - rear shock rebuild/service possible?

Thanks for the replies lads. Much appreciated.

We can summon our own rain here in Oz. It's pretty expen$ive though. It involves building desalination plants.....a billion each or so. All the states have done it here in Oz, trying to get one up on each other. Works a treat as then it pisses it down with rain.
When your reservoirs are full and you've nowhere to put the output from the exp desal plants, you can just return it back out to sea, or this is the best bit, release your res water back to the sea and then run the desal plant chomping thru power, to replace it. This way the public get to see all their tax $ in action.
Its ok though, the already exp$ power generation has a carbon tax on it now so we can make our own water and save the world at the same time.
Piss easy eh.
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Re: Original Blade - rear shock rebuild/service possible?

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Hi. had mine rebuilt by a local specialist. It is a biger job than on some other shocks as it does have to have the bladder replaced. But once done, then it is easily rebuildable. It cost me £140 rather than the usual £100 (two years ago so add in inflation to that cost). Bt the shock was so much better and considerably cheaper than aftermarket replacement.
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Who did you get to do yours? I want to get mine done (92 Blade) rather than buy an aftermarket shock.

Thanks.
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Re: Original Blade - rear shock rebuild/service possible?

Holy thread resurection Batman!

Hi Rob. Took mine to Kias suspension in Atherton, North of Manchester. Essentially, they de-gutted it and replaced with new internals that are now easily re-buildable. Motorcycle Suspension and Service - KAIS Ohlins UK
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Re: Original Blade - rear shock rebuild/service possible?

ANy suspension shop can service it, or someone like Race Tech can turn it into a fully adjustable, fully rebuildable, race quality shock.

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Re: Original Blade - rear shock rebuild/service possible?

How do you remove the shock on a 02 954.
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Re: Original Blade - rear shock rebuild/service possible?

I like to use a scissor jack for a car between the rear tire and the bottom of the subframe....jack it up just enough to unload the rear suspension, and remove the top and bottom clevis bolts, and wiggle the shock out.

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Re: Original Blade - rear shock rebuild/service possible?

Some nice, strong nylon rope through the subframe top rail to your overhead hoist. What, no hoist.... Have a nice struggle.
Seriously, if you have a garage roof beam or even make up an A-frame, just somewhere to mount a hoist, electric preferred but a manual ratchet one does the job, especially for suspension work (fancy paddock stands are no use at all for this job). Means the bike can't topple over and makes removal / fitment pretty much a doddle.
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I like to use a scissor jack for a car between the rear tire and the bottom of the subframe....jack it up just enough to unload the rear suspension, and remove the top and bottom clevis bolts, and wiggle the shock out.
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Some nice, strong nylon rope through the subframe top rail to your overhead hoist. What, no hoist.... Have a nice struggle.
Seriously, if you have a garage roof beam or even make up an A-frame, just somewhere to mount a hoist, electric preferred but a manual ratchet one does the job, especially for suspension work (fancy paddock stands are no use at all for this job). Means the bike can't topple over and makes removal / fitment pretty much a doddle.
I am sorry I should have worded that better. I have already removed the shock. I meant to say spring instead of shock. I want to remove the spring so that I can have it PC'd. I am assuming a spring compressor to relieve the tension and then pull out the holders and slide the spring out. I am doing a 100% rebuild/resto and the yellow spring will not work with my color choices.
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Holy thread resurection Batman!

Hi Rob. Took mine to Kias suspension in Atherton, North of Manchester. Essentially, they de-gutted it and replaced with new internals that are now easily re-buildable. Motorcycle Suspension and Service - KAIS Ohlins UK
Thought I'd search the forum first for advice before starting a new thread

Thanks for the info, they're only about 20 mins or so from me.
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Re: Original Blade - rear shock rebuild/service possible?

Glad the thread helped someone out Rob.

For the poster asking how to remove with regard to jacking up the bike.

A paddock stand can be used to raise up, then remove the rear sets / footpegs, screw in some decent quality high tensile bolts into the threads, then place two axle stands under each bolt.
If you make sure the axle stands are raised high enough, this will make the job easy.
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