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headlight probs :(

i installed a new clutch cable y'day and when i started the bike it immediately shot up the revs so i killed her straight away, i went to restart and it just chugged as if the battery was dying, a further 3 attempts yielded pretty much the same.
i tried again 30mins later and she fired up no prob and ran perfectly except for the fact ive now got no bloody high or low beam, all three main bulbs are dead, the two small sidelights are operating fine.

she has a HID system fitted and ive checked all fuses which are fine, the bulb filaments seem intact from looking through the headlight. if it turned out to be a bulb and im not seeing the break, would it have knocked all three out?

any ideas? bike is a 2000 929 thanks.
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Re: headlight probs :(

can you take a bulb out and try it in another bike or car, i know it sounds stupid but are the lights are switched to the on position.
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can you take a bulb out and try it in another bike or car, i know it sounds stupid but are the lights are switched to the on position.
yeah, all switched on. i was hoping to avoid the pain in the ass that is removing the headlamp, surely id be able to see if the filament was broken without trying in the car? the filament looks to be intact from just looking in through the headlamp
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Re: headlight probs :(

HID bulbs don't have a filament. I am assuming you mean the bulb holding the Xenon gas hasn't exploded.
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HID bulbs don't have a filament. I am assuming you mean the bulb holding the Xenon gas hasn't exploded.
sj=hows my tech know how lol. i can see wire of some description, almost like a tiny spring, if that makes sense?
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Re: headlight probs :(

If there is a wire inside the bulb then they are not HID. So perhaps they are halogen and they blew when your bike acted up.
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If there is a wire inside the bulb then they are not HID. So perhaps they are halogen and they blew when your bike acted up.
def HID, theres a small black box bottom left on fairing with HID written on it
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Re: headlight probs :(

Well, if the lights are all out, you might have fried something in the lighting circuit. My mate was riding my blade once and it just quit. Somehow all the bulbs popped and the ecu and dash were fried.
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Well, if the lights are all out, you might have fried something in the lighting circuit. My mate was riding my blade once and it just quit. Somehow all the bulbs popped and the ecu and dash were fried.
just my hi/lo is gone mate. i think i'll start pulling the switch etc apart incase wires are broken
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Re: headlight probs :(

Good luck! My money is on the bulbs or maybe the ballasts.
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Re: headlight probs :(

is the head lamp relay available at any motor factors or are they a honda specific part?

cheers
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Re: headlight probs :(

Pull the connecter going to the ballast and check for power and ground. If you dont have either id start looking around for damaged wiring around the switch area down to the ballast connector. You might have damaged it while installing the clutch cable.
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Re: headlight probs :(

Do not try to test anything after the ballast, HIDs use thousands of volts and are not something you want to be messing around with.
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Re: headlight probs :(

I've installed lots of HID kits in bikes and cars (including my 929). Lots of retrofit stuff. I've also fixed a lot of hack jobs

The 929/954 headlight switches are run off the ground wire (when you turn the lights off it cuts the ground) this is a good thing.

However, people who hook up HID kits mistakenly put switches on the power wires... this is asking for trouble... it causes shorts... sounds like that is what happend (caused a huge surge in power that actually caused the bike to run different... ie: the R/R told the bike "we're low on juice, rev up")

I bet you anything the guy didn't put a fuse in your HID system because if he had the fuse would have blown and you could have found the short.... but unfortunately I think your bike fried your ballasts (the power converters for the HIDs)... the guys are right that the bulbs are probably fine.

Check the power wires going to the ballasts because I bet they show signs of being overheated (the coating melted or crazed).

I've seen this before in rush jobs

GL though
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Re: headlight probs :(

Most Japanese manufacturers use a ground switched headlight circuit. Good call Matt!
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