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post #1 of 23 Old 02-21-2012, 8:22 AM Thread Starter
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'97 steering head bearings.

So... I'm replacing the fork seals, and notice a slight detent in the steering as you move L<>R from center. Looking at the bearings online I've seen the tapered bearing kits for the 900.

Recommendations? I've seen em for $36 to $50 but more interest as to the whether people have fitted with success!
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So... I'm replacing the fork seals, and notice a slight detent in the steering as you move L<>R from center. Looking at the bearings online I've seen the tapered bearing kits for the 900.

Recommendations? I've seen em for $36 to $50 but more interest as to the whether people have fitted with success!

I put tapers in an F3 some years ago. I think they were a bit taller than the OEM's but I don't think it caused any problems.
I would stick with the OEM's though, they lasted 14 years without any problem already :-)
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Re: '97 steering head bearings.

14 years... point.
Time for some new bearings and tap them in.

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14 years... point.
Time for some new bearings and tap them in.

Thanx

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I'm building a car engine and this heat is brutal during the day - and night. So I'm getting up in the wee hours and doing it when it's a bit cooler :-)

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Re: '97 steering head bearings.

*chuckle*

I gotta strap on the bat gear and enter the fray at 1400.... only the hottest part of the day!

Wanna swap for the shed?
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*chuckle*

I gotta strap on the bat gear and enter the fray at 1400.... only the hottest part of the day!

Wanna swap for the shed?

Yes, I don't envy you one bit :-)
The heat keeps the scumbags in their caves during the day though at least :-)
Stay safe out there Bry!

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Re: '97 steering head bearings.

When I swapped my 900 yokes for 929 yokes I reused the bearings from my 900. But the other day when I removed the forks I notices I had a lot of side to side movement in the yoke. I didnt tap anything in only sat the lower bearing over the stem and installed the top bearing and washers etc and tightened it all down, have I screwed up? I didnt have the tool to tighten down the head nut so used the shock adjuster c clip so couldnt torque it... Are you talking about if you replace the bearing runners in the frame head having to tap things?

I think im going to order a new bearing set and the tool to torque it now unless ive done something wrong..



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When I swapped my 900 yokes for 929 yokes I reused the bearings from my 900. But the other day when I removed the forks I notices I had a lot of side to side movement in the yoke. I didnt tap anything in only sat the lower bearing over the stem and installed the top bearing and washers etc and tightened it all down, have I screwed up? I didnt have the tool to tighten down the head nut so used the shock adjuster c clip so couldnt torque it... Are you talking about if you replace the bearing runners in the frame head having to tap things?

I think im going to order a new bearing set and the tool to torque it now unless ive done something wrong..
As far as I'm aware all the Fireblades run the same bearings.
What do mean by side to side movement?
What do you mean by tapping things?
I've never torqued the steering bearings. Tighten them down a little at a time until you just feel the steering getting tight, then back it off slightly.

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Re: '97 steering head bearings.

if I hold the bottom yoke there is side to side movement, this is without the forks fitted. I got the tapping bearing in from the above posts, got me worried as I didnt tap anything which was why I thought perhaps why I have movement.

Perhaps i just need to nip the head bolt some more, I did what you did tightend it until it was to tight then backed it off a tad. Could be things have just seated more over time and I just need to tighten a tad more.. Will have a look later.



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if I hold the bottom yoke there is side to side movement, this is without the forks fitted. I got the tapping bearing in from the above posts, got me worried as I didnt tap anything which was why I thought perhaps why I have movement.

Perhaps i just need to nip the head bolt some more, I did what you did tightend it until it was to tight then backed it off a tad. Could be things have just seated more over time and I just need to tighten a tad more.. Will have a look later.

Doesn't sound right. Perhaps one of the bearing cages has collapsed?
I think you're referring to the tapered bearings?
Your OEM bearings should be ball bearings in a cage.
Tapers are tapered roller bearings in a cage - usually aftermarket.
In the old days the roller bearings weren't great and not well protected so they tended to wear and corrode. The usual fix was to replace them with tapered bearings. Modern caged ball bearings are far better quaility material and design so there's no need to swap them out for tapers.

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Re: '97 steering head bearings.

Ah OK thanks BR, I will strip it down again and check whats happened.



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Stripped the yokes BR and I had left out the upper race runner thing, haha thats why it had movement. Found it in my box of spares parts and fitted it, no movement now appart from left and right where is supposed to be Also my steering lock now works with the 929 yokes and it didnt before as the ignition barrel never ligned up with the frame cutout. Now all sorted so cheers



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Stripped the yokes BR and I had left out the upper race runner thing, haha thats why it had movement. Found it in my box of spares parts and fitted it, no movement now appart from left and right where is supposed to be Also my steering lock now works with the 929 yokes and it didnt before as the ignition barrel never ligned up with the frame cutout. Now all sorted so cheers

Bloody hell!
How long have you been riding it like that?
I test rode an '88 GSXR750 that didn't have the upper bearing and it was all over the road :-)

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Re: '97 steering head bearings.

haha no I had not ridden it its just been sat in the garage like that, prob would have noticed something serious wrong if I had or crashed



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Re: '97 steering head bearings.

I found this when I changed the headstock bearings on my 94/95 foxeye. I changed the bearings circa 4 years ago.

Not sure how the swarf got there (perhaps built on the friday night or monday morning shift!)

I replaced them with taper roller bearings .... cheaper and I understand better than original (I am open to correction from those engineers in the know about bearings, stresses and loads etc) - it seems to be what the local bike shops have always advised (obviously not the mainstream dealers who advocate their much higher priced OEM bearings!!!) .

Perhaps down to personal choice - and available funds....
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