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What tool do I need? Oil Filler Cap

@IanDoohan ?

And where can it be found? I may have to make a trip to the local Honda dealer tomorrow (today?) anyhow. What do I ask them for?


And I can't find the dang-blasted thing on microfiche. [edit: found it! it's part number 15650-KYK-910 but it still doesn't tell me what tool I need to remove it.]

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Re: What tool do I need? Oil Filler Cap

That doesn’t look right at all Jay. Is that the 50 you have?

Haven’t seen one in a while, but they used to look like this. Did you cut that slot in it?


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Looks like a job for the, and I hate to say it, vise grips. That doesn’t look OEM at all.

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Re: What tool do I need? Oil Filler Cap

as it's got a slot in it I would use a large flat blade screwdriver or thin flat bar to un-do it
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Re: What tool do I need? Oil Filler Cap

This is the cap for the 110. If it’s not OE, then I presume the P.O. cut that slot.

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Re: What tool do I need? Oil Filler Cap

The PO said he didn't cut the slot. A buddy who's had 5 110's at one time or another says the cap is OE and to use a flatblade to unscrew it. The slot seems wider than a flatblade to me. When I get it off, I'm replacing it with something more conventional. It's needs to be safety wired anyhow.
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The PO said he didn't cut the slot. A buddy who's had 5 110's at one time or another says the cap is OE and to use a flatblade to unscrew it. The slot seems wider than a flatblade to me. When I get it off, I'm replacing it with something more conventional. It's needs to be safety wired anyhow.
Yup, you learned me something today Jay, it is in fact OEM. Iíve never seen something so odd. Get a replacement, that looks like too much work, just to get the dipstick out.

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Re: What tool do I need? Oil Filler Cap

Swapping the filler cap/ dipstick is probably a no-go. The measurements for the 50 and 110 dipsticks aren't interchangeable.

Fortunately, the cap drilled quite easily to accept safety wire when I'm ready to do it.

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Swapping the filler cap/ dipstick is probably a no-go. The measurements for the 50 and 110 dipsticks aren't interchangeable.

Fortunately, the cap drilled quite easily to accept safety wire when I'm ready to do it.
Sorry if you thought thatís what I was suggesting. I was saying to just get an aftermarket one that resembled the 50ís, so itís easier to remove.

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Re: What tool do I need? Oil Filler Cap

I know what you meant. I think it was just over tightened but once I removed it...The cap and dipstick is a single unit. Unless some aftermarket manufacturers makes one then I won’t be able to use the measure. Which reminds me: checking oil needs to be part of our after riding procedure, considering the oil is checked in a fully warmed engine (silly).

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Yup, you learned me something today Jay, it is in fact OEM. Iíve never seen something so odd. Get a replacement, that looks like too much work, just to get the dipstick out.

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Would have bet a lot of money that his wasn't OEM! Still you're right, get a more OEM replacement
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Re: What tool do I need? Oil Filler Cap

Is the slot designed to be able to use a coin to open it?
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Re: What tool do I need? Oil Filler Cap

Very likely that may have been the intent. Didnít even think of that. But who checks oil then pulls a coin from their pocket to do so? Who came up with this (not so) brilliant idea? How about a regular tool that would be expected when youíre holding a bottle of oil, like....a wrench (spanner).
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Re: What tool do I need? Oil Filler Cap

What I donít get is where do you gain your twisting torque with that set up, why would Honda want you to use a tool to check your oil, and lastly, is the dip stick attached to the underside?

That makes even less sense, making it difficult to hold onto it while dipping and checking the level. Weird one for sure.

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Re: What tool do I need? Oil Filler Cap

When I put a screwdriver in there it seemed to lock in place, the channel is deeper than it appears and the outer material is pretty stout. Iíd wondered if by twisting it was somehow relieving force by distorting the cap itself.

Yes, the dipstick is attached. Itís longer than the one for the 50 so the proper level can only be attained with it or similar length dipstick.

When checking level, the oil is supposed to be warm and the cap goes on just seated but not threaded.

I will need to get in the habit of checking level after a ride or session and watching for leaks during operation and just keep a mental monitor for excessive oil burning or blow by.
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