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post #1 of 21 Old 09-23-2019, 10:49 AM Thread Starter
 
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I came across this forum while searching for help with my husbands bike.

I drive a CBR600, and he has the 2003 954. He is having an issue on his second gear, he says he can feel it go into second and then jump out again. He says it happens on low revs and high revs.

We have spoken to a few people and all of them are recommending to have it undercut, however, nobody has taken it for a drive, or even looked at the bike. could this just be something minor?
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Re: New Member with a question

It is a common trend with 954s (and other known "abused" sportbikes).

"Minor" is a relative term. Short of replacing the gear altogether, undercutting may be the ideal longterm solution.
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It may be cheaper to source a secondhand engine, you just have to have luck that you get one that's not been abused like the picture . Or find someone that is selling a partially stripped engine, then you can check.
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what an awesome wife you are! way to help out your man! i assume your ready to go for a ride?
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Hi Guys

I came across this forum while searching for help with my husbands bike.

I drive a CBR600, and he has the 2003 954. He is having an issue on his second gear, he says he can feel it go into second and then jump out again. He says it happens on low revs and high revs.

We have spoken to a few people and all of them are recommending to have it undercut, however, nobody has taken it for a drive, or even looked at the bike. could this just be something minor?
Have any pics of your rides??

In addition to what has already been said, it could be a shift fork, shift fork shaft, or shift drum issue as well. There are a lot of parts in the tranny that get smacked together through the years.

If taking it to the shop is not an option because of cost (could be upwards of $1500 plus parts that may not be readily available), I would suggest he get a Honda Service Manual, a good set of tools, and quality time spent on his own diagnosis with a tear down.

Let us know how it progresses.
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. . . I would suggest he get a Honda Service Manual, a good set of tools, and quality time spent on his own diagnosis with a tear down.

Let us know how it progresses.
I am not one to sound like a smart-ass, but I would feel more confident with Eileen doing the tear down. Just sayin'.
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I am not one to sound like a smart-ass, but I would feel more confident with Eileen doing the tear down. Just sayin'.


You, a smart ass?

The thought never crossed my mind
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[IMG class=inlineimg]/forums/images/smilies/smilieRR.gif[/IMG]what an awesome wife you are! way to help out your man! <img src="https://www.fireblades.org/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Smilie" class="inlineimg" /> i assume your ready to go for a ride?
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Hi Guys

I came across this forum while searching for help with my husbands bike.

I drive a CBR600, and he has the 2003 954. He is having an issue on his second gear, he says he can feel it go into second and then jump out again. He says it happens on low revs and high revs.

We have spoken to a few people and all of them are recommending to have it undercut, however, nobody has taken it for a drive, or even looked at the bike. could this just be something minor?
<img src="https://www.fireblades.org/forums/images/smilies/welcome.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Welcome" class="inlineimg" /> Have any pics of your rides??

In addition to what has already been said, it could be a shift fork, shift fork shaft, or shift drum issue as well. There are a lot of parts in the tranny that get smacked together through the years.

If taking it to the shop is not an option because of cost (could be upwards of $1500 plus parts that may not be readily available), I would suggest he get a Honda Service Manual, a good set of tools, and quality time spent on his own diagnosis with a tear down.

Let us know how it progresses.
He is so anti doing it himself, and wants yo just have it undercut, but as you mentiomed it could be shift forks etc, can these only be accessed by removing the whole engin? Dont have the funds for it all to be done by shop, we are looking at around $1500,but parts are so scarce. We are in South Africa.

Here is a pic of our rides.
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. . . I would suggest he get a Honda Service Manual, a good set of tools, and quality time spent on his own diagnosis with a tear down.

Let us know how it progresses.
I am not one to sound like a smart-ass[IMG class=inlineimg]/forums/images/fireblades_toucan/smilies/tango_face_wink.png[/IMG], but I would feel more confident with Eileen doing the tear down.[IMG class=inlineimg]/forums/images/fireblades_toucan/smilies/tango_face_smile.png[/IMG] Just sayin'.
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Re: New Member with a question

Hi Eileen. Guess what I've got
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Hi Eileen. Guess what I've got[IMG class=inlineimg]/forums/images/fireblades_toucan/smilies/tango_face_grin.png[/IMG][IMG class=inlineimg]/forums/images/fireblades_toucan/smilies/tango_face_grin.png[/IMG][IMG class=inlineimg]/forums/images/fireblades_toucan/smilies/tango_face_wink.png[/IMG]
They are just beautiful. The guy we bought her from said he never had a problem with second. I have also taken his bike for a ride and it jumped out once, then i felt it feels like you need to make sure its in. But i cant tell him that, then he feels im telling him he cant drive&#x1f612;
Your is in a beautiful condition!
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Does your red light also stay on permanently
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Does your red light also stay on permanently
No, Eileen. That, as you and husband probably know, is the FI (Fuel Injection) indicator. It will only stay on if there is an 'engine management' issue and diagnosed by a series of flashes which will pinpoint a certain problem.

My light is on merely because the ignition was on to show the odometer (or 'speedo' for the ill-informed) reading.

Had no gear change problems with mine, however, it's rather domesticated at the moment!
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Re: New Member with a question

Thanks, his red light stays on, when I asked him why he said he is not sure... he has only had this bike for roughly 5 months, and the service manual does not really mention anything on it. maybe worth it putting the machine onto the dino and see if anything is picked up?
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