Thanks KenB! I was waiting for a stand up citizen to stand up, speak up.
Really, Bladeracer has an excellent point, he made it, I agreed and explained. The short of it is 190 HP is all you see on a piece of paper that I attached to this thread. Fortunately life is not about the short of it, just the facts, or black and white. I clearly posted as to how I came up with the figure Dyno Dynamics numbers are ALWAYS lower than DJ numbers. He even agreed himself. He even agreed that my assessment is too low on what the DJ number is.
I understand his commitment to looking out for the other guy to make sure people don't get screwed.
When I sat down to make the add I was not looking at the Dyno sheet. I went from memory on my discussion with the technician that ran the Dyno dynamics dyno and his explanation on what the conversion to a Dyno jet number would be. There was at no point any deception or ill intent put into the add. Quite the difference, my dynojet conversion number is only a 15% increase not the 20-30% suggested. If I was looking at the dyno sheet when I made the add, I'm sure it is quite possible I would have included the explanation from the start. I had forgotten that the dyno sheet said 190, and I was living in a world with knowledge that the bike easily made a 218 DJ number, because we all speak in DJ numbers in the motorcycle world. So from the time it was dyno'd last year I burned a conservative DJ number in my head regarding the bike. I do apologize to anyone that may be offended, including bladeracer.
I know that I have more than made up for any confusion about the add.
Anyone can agree that this bike's price is basis of the total package
Not just the HP as bladeracer seems to think.
It would still be an excellent price with only 180 HP. Ohlins, Marchesini, Translogic, etc... etc... etc.... 40K + invested. Only a piece of that into the engine/HP.
If anyone is truly interested, I don't think that taking it to a DJ dyno would be out of the question. I'm not convinced it's necessary, what evidence we have is enough; between the parts in
the bike, the dyno sheet we have , the facts on how to convert it to a DJ number, the reputation of the engine builder, and the admittance by bladeracer that the bike may well put out more.
With this posting I'm hoping more and more people learn about the different dynos and what their numbers mean. I was not aware of this dynamics vs DJ thing when the bike was dyno'd, the main purpose of that dyno run was to program the translogic and the story unfolded as you have read above.
I commend you on your stick-to-it-ness bladeracer. You picked a detail out, grabbed onto it like a pitbull and did not let go. It enabled you to get the whole story behind a HP claim on a classified add. Must be greatly satisfying to expose such a heinous act that turned out not to be. I'm sure that most that have read this found it to be a bit silly after a certian point, I base this on KenB's comment. I'm just people too... made a mistake, admitted to, explained, and apologized as soon as I realized.
Something that makes me laugh and get through the days. "We're all douche bags, just some of us realize it."
She'll be posted on Craigslist soon, with an explanation on the HP numbers this time..
I've been a visitor and member of this site for a while, just had not posted. 5 CBRs under my belt over the years. Just wanted to give the folks here a shot at it first.
Thank you all again.