Honda Motorcycles - FireBlades.org - Reply to Topic
Honda FireBlade Discussion of the Honda CBR 900RR, Honda CBR 929RR, Honda CBR 954RR, and Honda CBR 1000RR Motorcycles.

Thread: Race plastic questions Reply to Thread
Title:
Message:

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Honda Motorcycles - FireBlades.org forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
A valid e-mail address is REQUIRED. You will not have access to any site features until you activate your account using the activation e-mail that is sent to this address.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in










  Additional Options
Miscellaneous Options

  Topic Review (Newest First)
07-21-2004 12:48 PM
Pete
Re: Race plastic questions

Quote:
Originally Posted by abtech
Because you need to scuff it with 400 wet & dry before it will hold cheap paint. If you are using Sikkens or PPG it's not an issue.
I was expecting something along the lines of the gelcoat cracking under stress, or some other issue of integrity.
07-21-2004 12:39 PM
crazycuRRie
Re: Race plastic questions

Quote:
Originally Posted by fumbducker
Sharkskinz, Rennsport, or Hotbodies? Any opinions about quality, durability, and ease of fitment? Hotbodies has a special ~$590 shipped for all...Any and all opinions appreciated.


Peace

J
Ok I'll add my .02$... You can never go wrong with Sharkskinz Race Bodies.. They are simply the best in my opinion But there is the price tag that comes along with them. Now im a sponsered rider of RennSport Race Bodies and i still have my opinion as a racer. The Body work is good and very durable. The tail section is by far the best ive seen for a 954. There is still some fitting issues that im helping to resolve with the Brian Renn as it was just a little dificult in some spots to mount and in some spots where it didnt match up the way i would have liked it if i had paid full price for it. But ive got the first prototype body and it was free so i cant complain.. If you dod decide to Use RennSport tell him Jason Sent you and he will help you out a little with the price
Cheetah Race Bodies are also a decent set of plastic that is avalible... The quality isnt as good as it was last year but thats what happens when you start making your body work in 3rd world countries(mexico) to save a buck..
And by all means DO NOT USE HOTBODIES!!!!! I wouldnt use it if they gave me a free set... There is no Kevelar reinforced mounting holes as advertised and about 45% of the body work is Bondo... Used to cover up the shitty imperfections from the ****ed up molds they use. and there customer service bites ass.. But this is all just my opinion
07-21-2004 11:51 AM
abtech
Re: Race plastic questions

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pete
For those of us that are clueless, would you care to explain why?
Because you need to scuff it with 400 wet & dry before it will hold cheap paint. If you are using Sikkens or PPG it's not an issue.
07-21-2004 10:48 AM
Pete
Re: Race plastic questions

Quote:
Originally Posted by lfg929
Also, you want to stay away from anything that has a gelcoat on it.
For those of us that are clueless, would you care to explain why?
07-21-2004 3:57 AM
jaim
Re: Race plastic questions

I got a set of Cheetah race fairings. They are okay. I am having them send me a new upper fairing. The one they sent was too thin and has a lot of small cracks along the stress points. I have been waiting a month for the new upper fairing and have yet to see the connectors I ordered with them. Cheetah keeps saying the connectors are on back order and they don't have any more upper 954 fairings in stock and have to make some more. Otherwise, the lower faring, fender and rear cowl all seem to be pretty descent. Kinda pricey for what you get though. A little cheaper than Shark Skinz but not by much.
07-20-2004 11:17 PM
lfg929
Re: Race plastic questions

Heard nothing good about Hotbodies? Guess I can change that...

I ran Hotbodies on my 929 last year and picked up a new set for the Gixxer 750 this year. They work great. Their early versions had fitment issues from what I have been told, however, the sets that I picked up all worked great. I didn't have to do any trimming on the 929 set, and only had to do a very small amount of trimming in the Gixxer set to enlarge the hole around the left stator cover. Mounting was a snap.

As for what is better? Well, I suppose that is up to interpretation. Armour Bodies won the RRW shootout last year so according to them Armour Bodies has the best bodywork at the moment. They aren't cheap though. Skins aren't bad either, but again, they are gonna cost you. I go with Hotbodies because you can pick them up for $450 for a complete set with a race license. They might be a little thin but they are plenty flexible. If you burn a hole through then just patch it. If you crash and destroy them then you can replace every piece and still have spent about what it would be to get a set of Skins. As an FYI, last year I highsided the bike and tumbled it (2 separate crashes) and the bodywork was fixable. It had some cracks here and there but everything was easy enough to repair that I didn't worry about replacing any of it.

As far as Rennsport goes, a friend tried some on his SV and did not like it. The mold was all wrong and the bodywork was way too stiff. Also, you want to stay away from anything that has a gelcoat on it. Hotbodies, Sharkskins, and Armour Bodies do not have a gelcoat. There may be others as well.
07-20-2004 5:24 PM
soon2b954
Re: Race plastic questions

If anyone is interested in the Rennsport racing bodies I have a contact that I met here in Ontario. He told my friends and I that he would give us racer discount if we decided to buy. His name is Brian Renn, (513) 266-6397 or [email protected]
07-20-2004 4:52 PM
tigerblade
Re: Race plastic questions

Quote:
Originally Posted by bidwell
I'll be receiving Hotbdies in a few days and will let everyone know how they work. I heard they had a pretty bad rep a year or so ago but apparently improved dramatically of late, the savings over Sharkskinz was a little to much to ignore. Total for HB set including tank cover was $750.
That's the boat I was in. Complete set of Hotbodies through LP Privateer Program was less than $500.
07-20-2004 4:43 PM
DavidW
Re: Race plastic questions

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chrome Dome
I know it wasn't on your list, but don't rule out ARD racing in europe. I just bought a full set and the quality was top notch (and very easy to mount)
ARD are really excellent. Most racers over here will swear by there fairings. Only problem I had is that hardly anyone caters for the 954 over here (UK).

My fairing came from a company called 'Race Products' through www.performancemotorcycleparts.com . They could be worth a call because they ship worldwide. Seat unit and fairing cost me 235, but you would get them 17.5% cheaper because you would not pay VAT on them. Obviously shipping would need to be factored in.
07-20-2004 12:47 PM
bidwell
Re: Race plastic questions

I'll be receiving Hotbdies in a few days and will let everyone know how they work. I heard they had a pretty bad rep a year or so ago but apparently improved dramatically of late, the savings over Sharkskinz was a little to much to ignore. Total for HB set including tank cover was $750.
07-20-2004 12:28 PM
bpa00
Re: Race plastic questions

I have cheetah on my r6 race bike and have been fairly happy with them... I doubt they are as good as the skinz, but they seem better than some others out there....

- BA
07-20-2004 11:37 AM
fumbducker
Re: Race plastic questions

Thanks for the good info folks. Pete,Flexi-Glass Seems they are a Candadian Co. eh.

J
07-20-2004 10:39 AM
Pete
Re: Race plastic questions

Quote:
Originally Posted by Baketech
While it's better to use a drill bit designed for composites, you can use a standard drill bit with good results in a pinch.

After locating the hole, run the bit in REVERSE until you penetrate the gelcoat...then run it forward to finish the hole.

* It can also help to put a piece of masking tape down first to further reduce cracking of the gelcoat....

Ymmv......
Thanks for the tip. I was thinking a step bit would be the way to go, but was having a very difficult time finding one at the local hardware outlets.
07-20-2004 9:56 AM
Baketech
Re: Race plastic questions

While it's better to use a drill bit designed for composites, you can use a standard drill bit with good results in a pinch.

After locating the hole, run the bit in REVERSE until you penetrate the gelcoat...then run it forward to finish the hole.

* It can also help to put a piece of masking tape down first to further reduce cracking of the gelcoat....

Ymmv......
07-20-2004 9:50 AM
Trackho
Re: Race plastic questions

The 1000RR sharkskinz were quite impressive---waws the ONLY choice for the 1000RR as armour bodies still hasnt confirmed that they are gonna make them. Total set, incl tank cover was round $1,250.00---if you get sharkskinz get them to pre-drill the l,ower holes.
They fit perfect, have 1/2 holes pre drilled--those that arent have guides which make it quite easy to drill.

FYI--standrdx drill bits are NOT the way to drill holes--NOT sure what works better--gonna call sharkskinz--a "standard drill bit" tears up the fibreglass more than you would like.

My "paint guy" Bobby Keith says the Sharkskinz are the easiest to paint.

If you want Armour Bodies--call Jef Viets at Viets performance--heres the linkViets Performance
Tell Jeff V that Jeff G sent you--should get an excellent deal
This thread has more than 15 replies. Click here to review the whole thread.

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome