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10-31-2004 9:29 PM
Latebraking
Re: handling woes on the older blades..

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Originally Posted by risc32
I believe that the 96' model had the most built-in flex. I think it only lasted one yr, and in 97 they stiffened it back up some. I doubt there is any easy remedy, if at all. your best bet might be to go back and see who was racing them with success at the time and look for advise. You could try tires with differing sidewall stiffness to see how they feed bumps into the chassis. but,you might get lucky and find something you like.
The '98 model year got the stiffness back. '96 & '97 are the same bike, save for slightly different graphics. And the only remedy for this tuned flex deal is to engineer your own frame - HAH! - or get one from the years earlier or later than '96-'97.
10-31-2004 9:23 PM
risc32
Re: handling woes on the older blades..

I believe that the 96' model had the most built-in flex. I think it only lasted one yr, and in 97 they stiffened it back up some. I doubt there is any easy remedy, if at all. your best bet might be to go back and see who was racing them with success at the time and look for advise. You could try tires with differing sidewall stiffness to see how they feed bumps into the chassis. but,you might get lucky and find something you like.
10-27-2004 10:00 PM
thebackdraft
Re: handling woes on the older blades..

Forgot about the tunedflex thing. You could be right about complicating the problem more.
10-27-2004 9:58 PM
Latebraking
Re: handling woes on the older blades..

Actually, the main "problem" of this model year is the "tuned flex" that is built in. It's an early attempt by Honda to address the handling issues a motorcycle has at high lean angles. Installing a more rigid swingarm may add to the handling issues, instead of cure them, since the stiffer swingarm will be feeding more force into a fairly flexible frame.

I had a '96 900RR that I took to track days, and it never got to the point where it was settled in a turn. I had installed a 17" rim from an F3, which gave me access to the better tires of the time.
10-27-2004 9:10 PM
thebackdraft
Re: handling woes on the older blades..

I thought the main problem was with the 16" front wheel.
10-27-2004 7:17 PM
CBRSP2
Re: handling woes on the older blades..

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Originally Posted by muab
There are people who get paid to do research, that means it is work.

well I'm not about to go out and buy one of these, but i'd like to know if it does improve handling noticeably. I'd personally rather spend the money on lighter wheels and a great set of rubber
10-27-2004 7:12 PM
muab
Re: handling woes on the older blades..

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Originally Posted by Chindian
jeez, do some research
www.swingarm.com

There are people who get paid to do research, that means it is work.

10-27-2004 7:05 PM
CBRSP2
Re: handling woes on the older blades..

jeez, do some research
www.swingarm.com
10-27-2004 6:40 PM
CBR929RE
Re: handling woes on the older blades..

you gonna leave us hanging, whats the site?
10-27-2004 3:52 PM
muab
Re: handling woes on the older blades..

That sounds cool. I am interested in hearing about this too. Where did you find them?
10-27-2004 2:59 PM
CBRSP2
handling woes on the older blades..

I came across a website for JMC Swingarms, anyhow, they seem to use bottom bracing as part of their basic design and can apply top and bottom bracing for added strength.. now I'm wondering if anyone here has used their product and if you noticed a change in stability, aka that planted feel.

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