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01-12-2005 1:56 PM
CBR929RE
Re: CBR1000RR exhaust problem

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Originally Posted by Pete
You say the fit and finish is flawless, yet you're having problems mounting it. Also, that guy at 2Bros, that's very typical of their operation. Talk to the owner, Craig Erion, and you'll soon find out that he is the biggest prick you can find in the industry (and that's not second-hand info, I have spoken to him over the phone several times).
I am in no way suprised by that considering Kevin left to form Erion racing many years ago. And I've heard they pretty much only talk in court, being brothers that's pretty bad. So he must be a huge prick.
01-12-2005 1:34 PM
Pete
Re: CBR1000RR exhaust problem

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Originally Posted by phobiaphobe
I had a Kerker on my VFR...it came on the bike when I bought it.
When I bought my VFR it came with a Two Brothers.
01-12-2005 1:25 PM
phobiaphobe
Re: CBR1000RR exhaust problem

Pete: as far as fit and finish, I'm not sure if the fit is the problem or if they've actually sent the wrong end cap or screws. The pipe is beautiful and clearly well-made. Maybe I'm a little ignorant to this sort of thing but I am not disappointed to get a 2 bros pipe, I would have bought with my own money too. It is a finely fabricated product. It's too bad they seem to be assholes, maybe that's a west coast thing

If you want to talk about poor quality exhaust, I have seen those too. I had a Kerker on my VFR. Don't laugh it came on the bike when I bought it.
01-12-2005 12:21 PM
Pete
Re: CBR1000RR exhaust problem

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Originally Posted by Chuckracer
If it were me, I would find a solution to the problem and run it, and be thankful for the gift.
Agreed. Anything involving discussing it with the gift giver would be too risky for hurt feelings.

On a related note, I'm glad that in my family, and with my in-laws, we have an agreement that if you don't like something given to you, it's perfectly okay to exchange it. It is, after all, the thought that counts more than the gift itself.
01-12-2005 12:10 PM
Ice
Re: CBR1000RR exhaust problem

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Originally Posted by Chuckracer
Two Brothers may indeed be crap, but guys, the gentelman recieved this as a gift from loved ones. What do you propose he do? Tell them he doesn't want it cause the guys on an online forum said it's crap?
If it were me, I would find a solution to the problem and run it, and be thankful for the gift.


I second the motion
01-12-2005 11:42 AM
Chuckracer
Re: CBR1000RR exhaust problem

Two Brothers may indeed be crap, but guys, the gentelman recieved this as a gift from loved ones. What do you propose he do? Tell them he doesn't want it cause the guys on an online forum said it's crap?
If it were me, I would find a solution to the problem and run it, and be thankful for the gift.
01-12-2005 11:07 AM
Pete
Re: CBR1000RR exhaust problem

Not to continue pounding on you since LDH did so much pounding already, but...

You say the fit and finish is flawless, yet you're having problems mounting it. Also, that guy at 2Bros, that's very typical of their operation. Talk to the owner, Craig Erion, and you'll soon find out that he is the biggest prick you can find in the industry (and that's not second-hand info, I have spoken to him over the phone several times).

Maybe now you can understand why some of us have a very negative opinion of them and their products.
01-12-2005 10:18 AM
phobiaphobe
Re: CBR1000RR exhaust problem

I think the suggestion of the bolts bottoming out on the muffler sounds interesting... It's minus 40 today in Calgary though so I won't be going out to the garage to finish it until it warms up a bit. To the guy that thinks 2 bros is junk: Maybe you haven't seen this product; the fit and finish is flawless. And to the guy who thinks that slip-on's are for poseurs: WIth a proper map, I can expect a 5hp gain and a 5 lb weight loss, for less than half the price of a full system. So suck my balls.

To everyone else, thanks for the suggestions. That's what these forums are great for.

BTW I called 2 bros and the guy I talked to was a complete tit and not willing to help. He just told me to call the distributor.
01-10-2005 9:12 PM
toddfather
Re: CBR1000RR exhaust problem

I have a Sato s/o. It is a pretty loud pipe. But it sounds very good to me. It has a deep tone to it. It made a huge difference in my Blade. I have ridden others with different pipes too.
01-10-2005 9:11 PM
JAMI6989
Re: CBR1000RR exhaust problem

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Originally Posted by LDH
Well then maybe he needs to take his fluffy poser ass down to the Dairy Queen & ask somebody that can actually help him
01-10-2005 5:51 PM
LDH
Re: CBR1000RR exhaust problem

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Originally Posted by CBR929RE
also maybe he's mainly looking for sound and not much towards power.
Well then maybe he needs to take his fluffy poser ass down to the Dairy Queen & ask somebody that can actually help him
01-10-2005 5:43 PM
CBR929RE
Re: CBR1000RR exhaust problem

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Originally Posted by LDH
ignorance is blissful isn't it...

Look at these RC51 slip-on dyno charts & show me where this is nothing but sound http://www.rc51.org/dyno/02sato.jpg


The Sato Slip-on for the 1000RR produces more low end & mid-range power than the Sato Full system which itself produces some of the absolute best numbers of any exhaust I have seen tested.

(I suppose you think this Sato slip-on on the 1000RR is just for sound too)
http://www.rogueracing.org/images/satoslipvsfull.jpg
I didn't say it wasn't going to do anything. but damn after looking at that 1000rr sheet it seems weird the full system is only making 2 more hp than the s/o. most slip ons give around 2 hp over stock. but yes for that much difference I'd go with a sato s/o.

also maybe he's mainly looking for sound and not much towards power.
01-10-2005 5:28 PM
LDH
Re: CBR1000RR exhaust problem

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Originally Posted by CBR929RE
Besides its only a s/o so its not like its gonna do much other than sound anyway.
ignorance is blissful isn't it...

Look at these RC51 slip-on dyno charts & show me where this is nothing but sound http://www.rc51.org/dyno/02sato.jpg


The Sato Slip-on for the 1000RR produces more low end & mid-range power than the Sato Full system which itself produces some of the absolute best numbers of any exhaust I have seen tested.

(I suppose you think this Sato slip-on on the 1000RR is just for sound too)
http://www.rogueracing.org/images/satoslipvsfull.jpg
01-10-2005 5:23 PM
CBR929RE
Re: CBR1000RR exhaust problem

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Originally Posted by LDH
The real problem is you have the crappiest exhaust ever made.


Two Mothers is nothing but ****... I've said it a million times the only people that like Two Mothers products are the ones that have never had anything better. The first time you get your hands on a Sato, ARATA, Tsukigi or similar premium quality exhaust you will never look at any other exhaust the same again.
They are not the crappiest, can you say D&D or V&H? They seem pretty decent to me. besides its only a s/o so its not like its gonna do much other than sound anyway. I've seen/heard a two brothers bolt on an F4i (carbon sleeve), 929 (aluminum) and 954 (I think aluminum but not positive) all sound good and look good. I'm not a huge fan of their end cap though.

I also think there should be a gasket. do the instructions say to get a new stock gasket?
01-10-2005 5:02 PM
Pete
Re: CBR1000RR exhaust problem

Quit candy-coating your feelings, Mike.
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