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09-07-2007 12:49 AM
cbr_df
Re: one more problem please read

well so i've decided to get another engine cuz 1st i have a couple cracks on the lower crank case, 2nd it will be an engine with around 5-10k miles and that wil be at least 20k miles less than my current engine. i tried to turn the motor by hand and could not detect any liquid inside the head like haywire said. but i think you might be right cuz i can hear the starter motor clicking once like if it was locked, in this case, by the engine. so how do i get the liquid out of there?? i also want to thank everybody for helping me out. hopping someday i can return the favor one way or another.
09-06-2007 3:32 AM
haywire4130
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i wasn't trying to be rough, just giving you a little comic relief on a frustrating problem. seriously though, if money is no issue, it might be the best thing for you. i used to work at a shop and i cringed when bikes came in in boxes, parts missing, wires melted, threads stripped, 1/4-20 flathead screws jammed into 6mm threaded holes, things taken apart that had absolutely nothing to do with the original problem, etc. i apologize if i offended you, just trying to save you the trouble-
09-06-2007 2:56 AM
cbr_df
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wow easy now there no need to be rough, i will turn the crank case using the access hole. what would be the reason for the fuel being in the cylinders? checked the main fuse and its ok, all lights turn on. btw a have followed all the instructions you guys had gave me and by taking things apart, im learning too, i dont think i have bad skills cuz i can put back all the pieces i've taken apart. thank you guys for your advice.
pd. i heard the motor turning over when i was checking valve clearance so if it was hydrolocked i wouldnt be able to turn it to get the TDC, am i right?
09-06-2007 2:50 AM
haywire4130
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i have a better idea... since you don't seem to follow directions very well (everyone on this thread has given you great advice and your bike should have been running in an hour).... box up all of your parts. tomorrow morning, push your bike to a competent local shop if you don't have a truck. go to the shopkeep and repeat after me: "good morning sir/ma'am, i took my bike all apart and i have no idea what i'm doing. could you please repair it for me. thank you very much". they will charge you up the a$$ for taking it apart yourself but they will probably have you rolling in no time provided you didn't damage anything with your mad skills. or you could keep taking things apart and you might get lucky. your call-
09-06-2007 2:29 AM
cbr_df
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ok i got this new theory: white smokeil, black smoke: gas. so i found this: If the breather is clogged the engine crankcase maynot be holding vacuum causing the oil to get past the rings. so i installed a few days a go a catch can , so story made short, when i was tearing my bike down i noticed that one of the crankcase hose going to the catch can was clogged so there it is. the crankcase was not breathing very well and it was just matter of time til the oil passed the rings. what do you think.?
09-06-2007 2:21 AM
haywire4130
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and yes, you can turn the motor over with a socket thru the access hole in the clutch cover. unscrew the black plug and you can put a socket on the ignition timing wheel-
09-06-2007 2:20 AM
haywire4130
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i'm telling you, it's hydrolocked... meaning the cylinders are full of fuel (liquid) and you cannot compress a liquid. pull out the plugs and try to spin it over. you probably blew the fuse trying to crank it so check that, the main fuse is under the seat on the starter solenoid.
09-06-2007 1:50 AM
cbr_df
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will it be the same if i crank the motor from the lower right side by hand?
09-06-2007 1:27 AM
cbr_df
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the motor is fine, it was not spinning so i took it out and applied direct voltage to it and ran well. i thought it was the motor cuz when i turned the key on and pressed the start button, nothing not even cranking, so i thought it was the motor. i tried to put the bike on 2nd gear and move the tire to see if
there was gas coming from the plugs but i cant get the wheel to turn. i even looked if the tdc was not right and maybe thats why the wheel was locked down, but its on position. im putting everything back together to see if it crank.
09-06-2007 1:21 AM
haywire4130
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pull out your plugs and disconnect the fuel pump wires. crank the engine while giving it full throttle. stand back/wear safety glasses. if it is hydrolocked (which it sounds like it is) raw fuel will come blasting out of the spark plug holes. the skip you described earlier was probably from a fouled spark plug (probably the one where the INTAKE PORT was half full of gas). a good way to tell if you have a bad plug or are not firing on one cylinder is to use an infrared temp gun on the exhaust pipes where they exit the head. the one that isn't firing will (obviously) be way cooler. if you don't have one of those, you can spit on your finger and QUICKLY touch the pipes at the same spot. good ones will sizzle and evaporate fast, cold ones will just stay wet. good luck, and always check the easy stuff first. and if you need a motor i have a mint one with 18k commuter miles on it for cheap... i switched to a 954 motor etc.- pm me if needed-
09-05-2007 10:28 PM
cbr_df
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i had the tank and throttle body off the bike so i connected the pump directly to the batt and theres not even a single drop of gas coming out of the regulator so as far as i know this is normal so there is no bad fuel pressure regulator right?
09-05-2007 8:31 PM
kristribble
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thats normal. just pull off the vacuum line and turn on the ignition and when the fuel pump starts look for fuel comming out of the regulator
09-05-2007 1:37 AM
cbr_df
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will try, so everything points to a busted fuel pressure regulator? i also sucked real hard (weird) the regulator from the small tube (vacuum) and could not get any air.
09-04-2007 11:11 PM
kristribble
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Your starter is not spinning because of hydrolock. When your regulator dumps fuel into the cylinders it will cause the motor to seize until it dries. the smoke is fuel coming out of the pipe. Pull out the vacuum line from the regulator and turn on the ignition and look for fuel.
09-03-2007 9:41 PM
cbr_df
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ha ha ha now it wont even crank lol . changed my mind, i told my friend who was going to fix it for free) that i will try to get it fixed if i can i will buy an engine. now wondering why the starter motor i not spinning.
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