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05-04-2009 1:25 AM
bladeracer
Re: Litrebike shootout

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Originally Posted by krisd View Post
(this is going to piss someone off) R1's and R6's are notorious for being twitchy, something I didn't want to go back to as the '09 R1 sounds like it is.
I prefer twitchy myself.
Even if I were going to race it I wouldn't base my decision on one professional rider's preference _on his Superbike_ which is very different to the production road bike. For road use there's no relevance at all.
05-03-2009 10:02 PM
krisd
Re: Litrebike shootout

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Originally Posted by bladeracer View Post
Is Spies the only rider requiring this?
Seems a really strange reason to change your mind about a bike - unless you are Ben Spies of course :-)
Dunno mate.

(this is going to piss someone off) R1's and R6's are notorious for being twitchy, something I didn't want to go back to as the '09 R1 sounds like it is.
05-03-2009 9:46 PM
bladeracer
Re: Litrebike shootout

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Originally Posted by krisd View Post
However, before I got my 08 Blade in February this year I actually had had an order on a 2009 R1 since September last year. But as soon as I heard about the setup problems Ben Spies was having (they have moved the fuel under the seat- the fuel cap is behing his arse- and have welded supporting frames to the chasis to support the change in weight distribution) I forfitted my deposit and got the Blade.
Is Spies the only rider requiring this?
Seems a really strange reason to change your mind about a bike - unless you are Ben Spies of course :-)
05-03-2009 9:22 PM
krisd
Re: Litrebike shootout

When I started this thread I was careful not to comment on any bike- because in reality they are all superb bikes and the difference between them can be measured within perhaps 1%, so bugger all (as we say down under). I have had a few R1's and they were great and personally I would be happy with any of these bikes.

However, before I got my 08 Blade in February this year I actually had had an order on a 2009 R1 since September last year. But as soon as I heard about the setup problems Ben Spies was having (they have moved the fuel under the seat- the fuel cap is behing his arse- and have welded supporting frames to the chasis to support the change in weight distribution) I forfitted my deposit and got the Blade.

I would love a Gixer at some stage, I really don't know what the stylists at Kwaka were smoking (my 3 year old daughter could do better), and I love the cross-plane engine sound.

But I am really happy with the Blade now- it's my first one, and I absolutely love it. At last I know what everyone was talking about.
05-01-2009 12:12 PM
Cato85
Re: Litrebike shootout

I like the new R1 our ride leader picked one up 2 weeks ago. Amazing sound, he has been riding and racing for 32 some odd years. He still likes his duc 1098 over the R1.

however he said for the price its a great bike, he said he felt that whole crossplane crank first time he rode it. noting that it was sooo smooth like butter with the sound of a baby ducati .

To my surprise my 954 with the work i have done stays with it untill the straights the he pull a bit harder than me but by the next turn im back in his mirror he says he dosen't like how it feels slamming it into corners. however while in turn the power out just before apex and all the way out he said it feels like a rubberband.

not bad I rode it too. dont like it, dont want it, never really wanted a sham-aha except for their atv's and one of their dualsports a while ago.
05-01-2009 10:38 AM
bladeracer
Re: Litrebike shootout

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Originally Posted by denzee View Post
Very true but I believe the guys who went out to buy them were dyno whores for the most part.
Can't comment on that but it's possible :-)
I don't buy bikes new or secondhand (last new one was '98) - I buy wrecks and fix them up. Not only do I avoid interest, financing, depreciation but I also get to build exactly what I want out of the bike - and they're cheap enough that I never have to consider selling them :-)
05-01-2009 10:28 AM
denzee
Re: Litrebike shootout

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The GSXR is a great bike regardless of its output though.
Very true but I believe the guys who went out to buy them were dyno whores for the most part.
05-01-2009 9:58 AM
bladeracer
Re: Litrebike shootout

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Originally Posted by denzee View Post
So it comes down to brand loyalty, looks or fit and feel as blade says. Although some riders out there are just dyno whores and whatever bike has the highest peak HP, that's the one they go with, AKA GSXR 1000 of the past several years.
The GSXR is a great bike regardless of its output though.
05-01-2009 9:30 AM
denzee
Re: Litrebike shootout

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Originally Posted by bladeracer View Post
Tests are an interesting read but there is only one way to determine which bike best suits you and that's to ride them all yourself.
This is so true. As they said at the beginning of the test that they are basically splitting hairs. All machines are capable of performing well above what the average rider can throw at it and they are all excellent machines.

So it comes down to brand loyalty, looks or fit and feel as blade says. Although some riders out there are just dyno whores and whatever bike has the highest peak HP, that's the one they go with, AKA GSXR 1000 of the past several years.
05-01-2009 7:19 AM
bladeracer
Re: Litrebike shootout

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Originally Posted by thelastosirus View Post
I don't completly agree with the way the performed the comparison. Whenever you do testing, you have to minimize variables. And out of the 4 bikes there were 3 different tires? So many quality's are determined through the tires. Braking power, braking feedback, turning ability, transition personality, grip.....and more. Then could have tested an '06 CBR600RR with a set of power one's and it would have ranked higher then all the newer bikes.
This is valid but the tyres may also suit one particular bike over the others so you'd really need to test all the bikes on all three tyres.
Tests are an interesting read but there is only one way to determine which bike best suits you and that's to ride them all yourself.
05-01-2009 6:37 AM
thelastosirus
Re: Litrebike shootout

I don't completly agree with the way the performed the comparison. Whenever you do testing, you have to minimize variables. And out of the 4 bikes there were 3 different tires? So many quality's are determined through the tires. Braking power, braking feedback, turning ability, transition personality, grip.....and more. Then could have tested an '06 CBR600RR with a set of power one's and it would have ranked higher then all the newer bikes.
04-30-2009 11:20 PM
matt.k
Re: Litrebike shootout

anyway back to the topic.

I had heard so many crazy good things about the R1 this year. I admit I hate the way it looks and feels to sit on but I though that mich be offset by performance. and despite what they said about the zx10 I would still rather have an 07 because it has better ergo's and looks a whole lot better
04-30-2009 11:07 PM
bladeracer
Re: Litrebike shootout

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Originally Posted by honda3x23 View Post
see post 15.
You mentioned copywrite but putting somebody's logo on it doesn't damage your copywrite on it.
And you mention them putting their meathooks into your picture which makes no sense either. If you don't want the world to see your pictures maybe you shouldn't put them online?
04-30-2009 10:59 PM
honda3x23
Re: Litrebike shootout

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And I've already said I have no problem with that.
I don't understand why you do.
see post 15.
04-30-2009 12:47 PM
bladeracer
Re: Litrebike shootout

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^^ exactly fireblades.org right across the bottom lol.
And I've already said I have no problem with that.
I don't understand why you do.
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