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post #1 of 27 Old 04-02-2004, 10:24 AM Thread Starter
 
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For anyone even thinking about suspension

Well guys, my suspension is all done - the respring job that is.

To everyone who ever told me that spending money on suspension is or should be the FIRST coin set down on a new bike, I conced. You were right.

I bought straight-rate 1.1 fork springs and a 650 lb. Hypercoil shock spring and, with a good buddy's help yesterday, got everything installed in about two hours. This includes putting another 50psi nitrogen into the shock (it had bled off quite a bit over the winter) and setting the fork tubes up 5mm in the triple clamps to help quicken the steering and negate the higher dynamic ride height from the much stiffer front end.

I rode about 200 miles in the hills north of my home yesterday afternoon and I can honestly say I'm actually more confident and am riding more briskly with a greater margin of safety on this bike than I was on the same high speed sweepers and switchbacks which I rode last summer aboard my 954. The point isn't to suggest the FZ is a more capable sportbike than the 954 was. What I mean is, the difference in handling is like night and day; had I done this work to the 954 (springs to match my 230 riding weight), who knows how much better yet I'd be riding.

No fork dive upon hard braking. No unsettling of the chassis with a mid-corner line correction. No hobby-horse effect when I apply throttle and rail a long, wide corner. No gushy rear end dive on hard acceleration, but instead a mild rise with the back tire digging in and the bike catapulting forward.

In short, I love it.

Again, thanks to those who pushed me in the right direction. There really IS life after exhaust.



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Do you think the Yamagods might be upset with you for using Honda contact cleaner on your Yam?

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I hear ya chain on the whole suspension thing. Just did the same thing to my Yamaha Seca II and man what a difference it can make, especially to us heavier guys (220 here )

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good for you, about time you listened...

Now, when are you gonna listen and get "on track"... We're right about that too ya know...
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Re: For anyone even thinking about suspension

Confession time: My biggest fear isn't looking like a fool (I'm no expert, I know this), but sliding my one and only bike across the tarmac when I invariably fall. I'd like to get an SV or something before I venture onto the track.
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Confession time: My biggest fear isn't looking like a fool (I'm no expert, I know this), but sliding my one and only bike across the tarmac when I invariably fall. I'd like to get an SV or something before I venture onto the track.
That fear is what keeps you riding w/in your limits and learning. Like the Honda Gal's say "Ride at 80% and focus on technique".

It will change your whole perspecitve on riding. I promise.

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Confession time: My biggest fear isn't looking like a fool (I'm no expert, I know this), but sliding my one and only bike across the tarmac when I invariably fall. I'd like to get an SV or something before I venture onto the track.
Yeah, what HD said. You learn so much about you and your bike on the track. And it doesn't mean you get out there and ride at 100% just because you're on a racetrack. You will fall if you do that. Go out and do 80%, leaving a safety margin like you do on the street, focusing on smoothness and technique. You will learn more doing a few track days than you will riding on the street for years. And, you don't HAVE to fall down.
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I have never been on a track either. But, I really want to. I have seen people think thay are the shitz and pound straight into the wall/hay on the first corner.

Its all about control, and taking your time. Sometimes riding fast, is not fastest.

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I have never been on a track either. But, I really want to. I have seen people think thay are the shitz and pound straight into the wall/hay on the first corner.

Its all about control, and taking your time. Sometimes riding fast, is not fastest.

"You have to slow down to go fast."
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Yeah, what HD said. You learn so much about you and your bike on the track. And it doesn't mean you get out there and ride at 100% just because you're on a racetrack. You will fall if you do that. Go out and do 80%, leaving a safety margin like you do on the street, focusing on smoothness and technique. You will learn more doing a few track days than you will riding on the street for years. And, you don't HAVE to fall down.

Get out there Chain.

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"You have to slow down to go fast."
Very wise. Great advice.
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Re: For anyone even thinking about suspension

Congrats on the suspension. It's definitely a good investment. I'll echo what's been said regarding the track. Just because you go to a trackday doesn't mean you have to go banzaii.

Is a paradigm worth 20 cents?
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Confession time: My biggest fear isn't looking like a fool (I'm no expert, I know this), but sliding my one and only bike across the tarmac when I invariably fall. I'd like to get an SV or something before I venture onto the track.
Man, its just like the street, only you see the same corners repeatedly and you work on your technique... Going to the track doesn't mean you HAVE TO go fast... But you will, cause you'll learn SOOO much in one track outing!

I guarantee it!
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Man, its just like the street, only you see the same corners repeatedly and you work on your technique... Going to the track doesn't mean you HAVE TO go fast... But you will, cause you'll learn SOOO much in one track outing!

I guarantee it!

I wanna go right NOW

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Re: For anyone even thinking about suspension

I appreciate the input on the track idea guys and gal, I really do. Right now, however, I want to get back to normal thread programming and revel in the delight of actually having worked on the blue-top-of-the-fork-anti-bongie-thingies yesterday!
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