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I'm doing some quick research for my sociology class and am interested in your opinions.

Here's the situation:

You are going to debate the legalization of prostitution...but you don't know which side you're going to be on.

Give one reason for and one reason against.

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Re: Sociology research

What? No input from the peanut gallery?

Ok how about this: Give me a reason why legalizing prostitution would be bad.

All the info that I have found online actually supports it.

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Nobody seems to be around and posting but I'll take a shot.

For: Currently large amounts of revenue are being overlooked and by taxing the services that money is added back to society. Not to mention reducing taxes in other areas.

Against: It will exponentially increase the spread of sexually transmitted diseases.

Interesting... Would prostitution add to the GNP? Would you be able to learn the trade in community college or technical high-schools? Would your masters degree in prostitution allow you to qualify as a pimp?

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For: it could reduce the amounts of sexual violences occuring ( i dunno, just a guess)

against: it could increase the rate of slavery for girls working as prostitutes, if legitimized.
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for: cuz i want it to.

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Re: Sociology research

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Against: It will exponentially increase the spread of sexually transmitted diseases.

Interesting... Would prostitution add to the GNP? Would you be able to learn the trade in community college or technical high-schools? Would your masters degree in prostitution allow you to qualify as a pimp?

Ahhh but if it were regulated by the govt like any other business? Just as most companies must comply to certain safety regulations, so would the prostitutes need to be tested regularly...
After some quick research it seems that the countries with legalized prostitution have a lower incidence of STD's and HIV.

Another thought regarding your pimp comment...wouldn't it negate the necessity for pimps thereby in effect freeing the girls from something akin to slavery?


Like I said, I have plenty of ammo for legalizing it....nothing to oppose it that would hold up for long.

It seems like most people wish to keep it illegal for no other reason than a sense of religious morality.

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For: it could reduce the amounts of sexual violences occuring ( i dunno, just a guess)
From what I've seen, there aren't any differences in crime rates between cultures that have made it legal and those that have not.


Two replies from my neighbors in Canada...interesting.
I've read that prostitution is legal with "some restrictions" in Canada? What the hell does that mean?

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Re: Sociology research

Prostitution is legal in most counties in Nevada. They have very strict regulations, and it must be done in a regulated brothel. I'm sure if you shot off an e-mail to some county commissioner in one of the counties you'd get some better responses than we could give you on here.
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Re: Sociology research

for - regulation for the ladies - ie, unions, health care, healthiness, etc.

against - morality

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How so? They are selling their bodies (and theoretically a skill), right? Is that any different from what a model does? How about an actor or an athlete?

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Re: Sociology research

I can think of a lot of reasons to make it legal...

Reduction in cost to government of trying to stop it (police, lawyers, judges)
Tax revenue for cash strapped governments (county, city, state, and fed)
Reduction in STD's (required regular testing and government licensing as in other countrys where it leagal)


As for against...., I don't know, I mean you can get it for free, but just donít pay for it? I know some use the morality argument, but the last thing I want the government telling me is what is moral or what isn't (hell how many US presidents have proven that point). In the same line of reasoning, extra marital affairs could very well be called immoral, but it's not illegal (at least as far as I know).

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How so? They are selling their bodies (and theoretically a skill), right? Is that any different from what a model does? How about an actor or an athlete?

no, it is not a skill. I think what you were looking for was a "trade" . Does it require skill to lay their with your legs spread? maybe to figure out the correct change may require skill

but my argument is that in the country that WE live in it is immoral to condone/support such a thing. we still have places that are not open on sundays, sell liquor, sell porn - all because of morales Would you want to have a daughter or your mother being a prostitute. If so, could/would you tell others of her trade?

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Re: Sociology research

I don't know. I think there are many careers (legal) that I would not want my Mother or Daughter doing....I think that what consenting adults do in the privacy or their homes (or place of business) is none of my business.

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Ahhh but if it were regulated by the govt like any other business? Just as most companies must comply to certain safety regulations, so would the prostitutes need to be tested regularly...
After some quick research it seems that the countries with legalized prostitution have a lower incidence of STD's and HIV.

Another thought regarding your pimp comment...wouldn't it negate the necessity for pimps thereby in effect freeing the girls from something akin to slavery?

<snip>

It seems like most people wish to keep it illegal for no other reason than a sense of religious morality.
I was pretty much being facetious with my responses... don't take them seriously.

As for the pimp their job function would not cease to exist - it would probably change and expand. Take for example any other service industry, perhaps hair cutting or IT consulting... The service is legal but once you move up from a sole proprietorship, there is usually management, sales and finance departments involved. I suggest that the pimp role is merely management, finance and to some degree sales... if the girls are working, who's selling? With legalized prostitution, you'd have to assume that eventually they'll go corporate and then maybe even unionized. The Pimp and Ho (P&H) union would probably jack hourly wages to the point where the common man would not be able to afford said services and thus the whole system might break down throwing the prostitution industry back into the black market. It's a viscious circle.

As for passing STD's... I would think that the risk of STD's would increase even with regulation. I make this assertion because I think that if prostitution is legal, the level of promiscuity would increase and studies have shown that chance of receiving an STD is directly proportional to the number of partners one has. *shrug* but what do I know I'm over-tired and am just spewing my thoughts as they come out.

Now... cons... what are the cons... Firstly, there would be the initial social stigma with anyone associated with the industry. It would also increase the risk of cancer. Why? Because more sex = more smoked cigarettes = higher risk of cancer. Also, this could flood the justice system as it tries to handle the increased volume of divorces, lawsuits and other such things. I draw the picture that having sex with a prostitute will lead to more divorces because if a husband outsources his sexual needs to a third party, the value of the relationship may decline but the costs are still being incurred. Also, the wife will probably dump his sorry ass first. That is assuming of course that the man would be visiting a prostitute. All bets are off if we're talking wife&gigilo...

Some things are better left to the black market.

Besides... if we decriminalize prostitution, we'd have a bunch of criminals hanging out without jobs. Where would they work? Would they move on to other crimes - maybe violent crimes? We must consider the criminal unemployment rate. Hmmm... Would out of work prostitutes receive welface?

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Re: Sociology research

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no, it is not a skill. I think what you were looking for was a "trade" . Does it require skill to lay their with your legs spread? maybe to figure out the correct change may require skill
Hmmm... It's not a skill? I can't vouch for prostitutes but for the others... well... I would say some of them really could turn that into a skilled profession.

Don't worry 'bout the correct change, I'm sure they'll make it come out to a nice round number.

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