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Need some advice from you lawn pros....

hey guys i am far from having a green thumb or knowing anything about my lawn besides what pattern to drive the tractor in so i need your help.

when i moved in i had near perfect walk around bear foot grass so every year i just used a feed fertilizer reccommended by the previous owner and it stayed perfect until this year when a careless with the yard neighbor of mine got a bad case of the grubs which quickly migrated to my yard and 2 more down the way now my lawn looks like a battle field at best with huge brown patches of dead grass. after a quick lawn mowing all the dead brown stuff turned to pure soil so now here is my situation.

this morning i spread down a whole bunch or scotts grub control over the whole yard because we are expecting rain, i bough enough grass seed to cover the entire lawn (same type as is down) so here are my questions:

1) how long do i wait to reseed over the grub control ?
2) how much soil do i need to loosen to plant the seed properly ?
3) on the existing grass do i just throw seed down or do i have to rough it up a bit first ?

i think those about cover it for now but i am positive i will think of more very soon.

thanks in advance for any help i get !!!

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Re: Need some advice from you lawn pros....

Honestly, I'd call a local nursery or see if a lawn care company will give you some free advice over the phone. Grub control and grass seed are both very expensive (as you've found out) and it would suck arse if you botched the job by trying to seed prematurely. The only thing I can recall from having your experience a few years ago was, I learned not to use crabgrass pre-emergence when I seeded in the spring. It'll keep the new grass from coming up too!

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Re: Need some advice from you lawn pros....

You're going to have to clear up all those dead spots. The dirt and grass in and around those brown spots are toast. Rake it up and toss it. Go get a batch of topsoil if you want and redo it.

Depending on the particulars of the stuff you bought it will probably suggest a time on the bag.

If not, wait a week and then go for it...reseed the areas.

No need to tear up the good grass before tossing more seeds onto it.

Look into airating (sp?) the lawn in the Fall.

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Re: Need some advice from you lawn pros....

here's some info on grubs

http://www.nysipm.cornell.edu/publications/grubs/

http://www.gardenguides.com/articles/grubs.htm

According to those reports you might just have to wait till the end of summer to apply the insecticide. I would say to just take care of your lawn as usual for the summer. It' might look like crap but you've missed the treatment time.

if you want to get a nice green lawn then..

1.Aerify the grass in the sping ( when the ground gets a little harder)
2.Fertilize with a high nitrogen fertilizer in the spring ( better after aerifying)
3.then fertilize with a balanced fertilizer in 6 week intervals during the summer.
4. In the fall, aerify again, and put down some fungicide, ( and apply the grub insecticide). and you should be fine for the winter.
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Re: Need some advice from you lawn pros....

oh, and no need to rip the other dead grass out, just mix the seed with some soil and lay it over the grass. water frequently.
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According to those reports you might just have to wait till the end of summer to apply the insecticide. I would say to just take care of your lawn as usual for the summer. It' might look like crap but you've missed the treatment time.
the bag gives no info on wait time for reseeding but it says the best time for application is early april to mid august !? id say im safely in that window. and judging by walmart only having 2 bags left id say its proper time ? but what do i know ?

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oh, and no need to rip the other dead grass out, just mix the seed with some soil and lay it over the grass. water frequently.
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You're going to have to clear up all those dead spots. The dirt and grass in and around those brown spots are toast. Rake it up and toss it. Go get a batch of topsoil if you want and redo it.
thats what i love about you guys !!! i just take a summary of everyones opinions !!!!!

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Re: Need some advice from you lawn pros....

I had a brief stint as a "turf specialist" with ChemLawn. I'm not saying that makes me an expert but that's what we always suggested to the home owner when they had grub problems...and no, it wasn't a service we offered so there was no sales pitch involved.

If I remember correctly, by not removing the soil (top layers only) you are leaving yourself open to new infestation. The larval grubs (well, actually that would be an egg I guess since grubs are larvae) will not be affected by the pesticide. So, unless you're hammering you lawn with it very frequently, you may miss some and just have to do it all over again later.

Up to you, I hate yard work which is why I currently have about 10 square feet of grass for my "yard"

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Re: Need some advice from you lawn pros....

I am doing the scotts 1-2-3 plan this year...seeing how it goes...I have never touched it before! figure...i'd give it a shot this year!

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