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Re: Responce to the "im pissed" thread
I will gladly discuss this like this... I quit posting in the other thread after Mr. "All cops should fall off the earth" voiced his opinion.
Ok, yes you did right by not running... we are in agreement over that. Now, the fact of the matter that you werent racing indicates the fact of the matter that you didnt receive a ticket/go to jail for racing, you received a citation for speeding. And from what you just said, you were doing that, just maybe not what he indicated... As our city judge tells people that say they were speeding, but not going what was written on the ticket, "Well speeding is speeding whether its 2 over or 20 over".
Now as the radar itself, most officers I know will not let anyone come back to the car to see the unit. You may not see it this way, but it is an officer's safety issue to have someone come back to your car. Also if the stop is on the side of the road, it exposes you to traffic, and while I have you stopped, you are my responsibility. I try to not let cars stop where they can get them/me in trouble. The PA is great for telling cars to move to a safer location than the turn lane on a 5 lane highway. With the speed indicated/written Several times I have clocked a vehicle at one speed say 60, yet the unit only locked it at a lower speed, say 55, due to acceleration / deceleration. When I approach the vehicle, I have the highest speed I saw in my head, but might not realise that it didnt lock the highest speed I saw. Our Radars and Lasers are set to lock the speed when the button is released, not the highest obtained.
The way I see it is that you were with a group of fast moving vehicles. The trooper may have seen/clocked you as you were rolling on the gas, yet took a while to get to you or waited for another car to hit the blues. (Multiple sets of blue lights reduce the motivation to run, and its good tactics to wait until you are right behind the offending vehicle to hit them, so that if they are a runner, they have less of a head start.) Im sure he saw your friends as well, but since you were the straggler, he got you. Like I said before, maybe he lacked Tact, but there was nothing illegal or wrong with what he did. Another thing is that the side of a street is not the place to argue guilt or innocence. That is what the nice climate controlled court rooms are for.
For future reference, when stopped, bike or car, follow these guidelines. You will have a better chance (with me anyways) of getting off.
1) Pull over in a safe spot off of the main road. (wide shoulder, parking lot, side road, etc.)
2) On the bike turn it off and remove your helmet. This shows you arent a flight risk.
3) In a car, turn you car off and interior light on with the window down.
4) Keep your hands visible to the officer. Dont go grabbing for your wallet until the officer asks for it. I rest my hands on the windscreen of the bike and on the steering wheel of the car.
5)When the officer asks, give him/her your License/reg/Ins. If the officer hasnt informed you of why you were stopped (if it isnt obvious) its fine to ask, just do it in a semi polite manner. Dont demand to know. If you think the officer is in error, a short explination is fine, but dont try to debate the facts on the traffic stop.
These will do a few things including making the officer feel a bit safer about the stop. If I feel safe, Im happy and less likely to issue a ticket. Best advice I can give you on this if you were speeding is to be honest with yourself and face the music. Now if it is a different penealty in your state for different speeds, you might be able to get the speed reduced or go to traffic school.