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post #1 of 30 Old 11-10-2004, 12:05 AM Thread Starter
 
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A real "free energy" machine?

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Seems plausable...

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interesting concept
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Yea, that's pretty ingenious.

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Re: A real "free energy" machine?

http://www.seaspower.com/
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Seems plausable...

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Snake oil. To double your money fold it in half and put it back in your pocket, this will not function.

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Snake oil. To double your money fold it in half and put it back in your pocket, this will not function.
Seems like they are ready to start installing them.

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Seems like they are ready to start installing them.
Call me when you know somebody that HAS one installed, this is a scam.

Pure snake oil. To generate electricity you need to rotate the wire through a magnetic field. While they imply that a permanent magnet will keep the rotation going this is false. The magnets will seek a point of equilibrium and stop (think balancing a bike tire) while a system with good balance and small losses will take longer to stop all systems will stop.

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Seems plausable...

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NOTHING is free.



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NOTHING is free.
Also false give me some money and that would be free

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Re: A real "free energy" machine?

who knows, maybe we just don't understand the world well enough and our idea of "physics" is wrong, we were once the center of the universe, ya know? Some fewd for thought:


Greer said he was recently contacted by a Lockheed Martin aerospace contractor, who claimed to have direct knowledge of an official suppression of images sent to the Space Science Institute by Cassini. According to the witness, the Cassini probe had captured images of several large craft that appear to have been artificially created, and of "non-terrestrial origin." Curiously, the witness told Greer that the UFOs were not an "unexpected" discovery. Greer believes the government secrecy surrounding UFOs is largely based on their need to protect energy interests.

Greer suggested we could free ourselves from oil and coal dependency by using "over unity" devices, machines which produce more electrical energy than is required to run them. He claims to have seen a working over unity prototype generator.
Such a device could be scaled down to provide unlimited energy to individual households and automobiles, Greer noted. Unfortunately, he reported that shady corporate and legal officials intercepted the device's inventor, and threatened to put him in jail if he continued cooperating with Greer.
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who knows, maybe we just don't understand the world well enough and our idea of "physics" is wrong, we were once the center of the universe, ya know? Some fewd for thought:


Greer said he was recently contacted by a Lockheed Martin aerospace contractor, who claimed to have direct knowledge of an official suppression of images sent to the Space Science Institute by Cassini. According to the witness, the Cassini probe had captured images of several large craft that appear to have been artificially created, and of "non-terrestrial origin." Curiously, the witness told Greer that the UFOs were not an "unexpected" discovery. Greer believes the government secrecy surrounding UFOs is largely based on their need to protect energy interests.

Greer suggested we could free ourselves from oil and coal dependency by using "over unity" devices, machines which produce more electrical energy than is required to run them. He claims to have seen a working over unity prototype generator.
Such a device could be scaled down to provide unlimited energy to individual households and automobiles, Greer noted. Unfortunately, he reported that shady corporate and legal officials intercepted the device's inventor, and threatened to put him in jail if he continued cooperating with Greer.
See my signature.

While we do not know all principles of the universe this device claims to use known principles and is snake oil.

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Re: A real "free energy" machine?

see my point re: the earth and the universe.
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Greer suggested we could free ourselves from oil and coal dependency by using "over unity" devices, machines which produce more electrical energy than is required to run them. He claims to have seen a working over unity prototype generator.
There is an entropy problem with this idea.
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Re: A real "free energy" machine?

sigh - before everyone flames me - I KNOW this is against the (current) laws of physics. But before everyone tell me how infallable those laws are, lemme know about how they 'splained that whole dark matter thing. Sometimes our comfortable assumptions about our world turn out to be false.

...All I'm saying is, what if?
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Re: A real "free energy" machine?

Magnets are weird stuff, and I won't claim to understand them, but it is possible, no matter how improbable, there isn't an entropy problem.

A balanced entropy equation (work in = work out, ie, "you don't get anything for free") is dependant on a reversible process. Irreversible processes, pretty much any process known to man, but let's say nuclear fission, clearly isn't reversible, and you get out more energy than you put in. Of course, the kicker is, the energy is made up by the loss of fissionable material and the energy of the atom.

I don't know what this guy is "depleting" to get his power if it does in fact "work".

There is not even close to enough info on that site to scientifically argue for/against it.

And then on the other side of the coin, maybe you can seemingly get something for free if the laws of science are in fact inadequate to describe the situation.

The real problem here is the fact this stuff hasn't been in the news. The scientific community would be all over this, and it would be Nobel winning class science if it was real.




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