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What did you think? I was watching the game live on ESPN, pretty crazy man. Wallace over reacted, but the fans IMHO, were unreal, piss poor and caused the escalation. To throw things and act in that manner is sad. Wus fans cold cocking players from behind, nothing but cheap shots. I've never seen this crap in the NBA, only in honky.
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keep this up and I might start watching again. IMHO the olympics showed the hoax that the NBA is - fwiw I haven't really watched since the days of MJ,

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Welcome to basketball, Detroit style...pretty sad, isn't it? Amazing how tough some guys think they are when they're in a crowd.

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basketball sucks ass. they should be the ones not playing not hockey. ever since jordan retired the first time there hasn't been a good player. no one today can actually play the game. they gotta make it harder, the basket is too low. I think they should also have a line that you have to be behind to shoot from, maybe a 5 foot arc. jumping over it for a dunk is allowed as is going in there to get a rebound but you have to "clear" it like in driveway basketball.

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I didn't see the actual fight, but have no problems w/ the players punching the fans that come on the floor. It's self defense in my opinion.

If someone came to my office and threw a drink at me, I'd be mad too.

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The players went into the stands.
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yeah he went into the stands b/c some yahoo threw a drink at him. I'd be really upset.

...I mean, I don't make 7 million dollars a year just so some punk can throw his garbage at me, mang!

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The players went into the stands.
even after that they still shouldn't punch a guy if he comes on the floor. My explanation for this brawl was he lack of hockey. Hockey is suppose to have fights. there is some league I believe in Canada that has more fights than actual hockey.

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yeah he went into the stands b/c some yahoo threw a drink at him. I'd be really upset.

...I mean, I don't make 7 million dollars a year just so some punk can throw his garbage at me, mang!
No question he shouldn't have gotten a drink thrown at him, but then he just went into the stands and started pounding people that may have had nothing to do with it. Totally uncalled for, and should be punished severely.
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No question he shouldn't have gotten a drink thrown at him, but then he just went into the stands and started pounding people that may have had nothing to do with it. Totally uncalled for, and should be punished severely.
Wow, I don't disagree with with what anyone has said in this thread so far. Pretty good analysis. Everyone involved should be punished. The college football incident today, and the media swarm afterwards for both incidents over the next week and month will be out of hand. The media just makes it so much worse, it's now a soundbyte.
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What do you expect from a bunch of thungs. The game has gone to **** for some time now. The NBA sees no problem of hiring high school kids with no education and no since of right and wrong. Now they expect thier players to behave like "normal" citizens with respect for the game. This is not the days of Magic, Jordon, Bird, Karem. This has turned into players that think only of themselves and money, not for love of the sport.

Damn I hate what the NBA has become. Thank You David Stern....

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basketball sucks ass. they should be the ones not playing not hockey. ever since jordan retired the first time there hasn't been a good player. no one today can actually play the game. they gotta make it harder, the basket is too low. I think they should also have a line that you have to be behind to shoot from, maybe a 5 foot arc. jumping over it for a dunk is allowed as is going in there to get a rebound but you have to "clear" it like in driveway basketball.
Ever heard of Tim Duncan, Kevin Garnett, Tracy McGrady, LeBron James, Allen Iverson, Dwayne Wade, etc, etc, etc?

I don't know if I would go so far as to say "no one today can actually play the game"...last time I checked, the rules are still the same as they were when Jordan, Bird and Magic played...I will agree that today's players do play a bit more of the "one on one" style as opposed to the past, but there are actually some very good players in today's NBA...

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Ever heard of Tim Duncan, Kevin Garnett, Tracy McGrady, LeBron James, Allen Iverson, Dwayne Wade, etc, etc, etc?

I don't know if I would go so far as to say "no one today can actually play the game"...last time I checked, the rules are still the same as they were when Jordan, Bird and Magic played...I will agree that today's players do play a bit more of the "one on one" style as opposed to the past, but there are actually some very good players in today's NBA...
Actually, if you want to split hairs, the rules are quite different from when Jordan, Bird and Magic played.
Iverson? Uh, yeah.
What the players did was wrong, but what the "fans" did was also wrong. As different the class of players was back in the days of Jordan, Magic and Bird was the class of fans. Fans today are every bit as bad as the thug players.
And my personal feeling about O'Neal's punch was that he was justified. A "fan" ran out onto the court and attacked him. He defended himself, and shouldn't have been punished for it. The other suspensions are just.
That said, "The Palace" needs to share some of the responsibility, as do the "fans" in Detroit. Maybe the NBA should suspend the lower few rows from being filled for a few games until the "fans" get some class and responsibility through their skulls. Maybe force "The Palace" to get better security if those in attendance continue to be every bit the thugs as those on the court.
There are plenty of teams, fans and facilities out there that keep things under control. Unfortunately those that can't screw it for everyone else.

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Ever heard of Tim Duncan, Kevin Garnett, Tracy McGrady, LeBron James, Allen Iverson, Dwayne Wade, etc, etc, etc?

I don't know if I would go so far as to say "no one today can actually play the game"...last time I checked, the rules are still the same as they were when Jordan, Bird and Magic played...I will agree that today's players do play a bit more of the "one on one" style as opposed to the past, but there are actually some very good players in today's NBA...
of all of them the only one I actually like is Tim Duncan. KG is good but its taken sometime, TMac is selfish and has to be cause the rest of the team sucks, don't give me that LeBron ****, AI was good his first couple years but hasn't done a ton, the name Dwayne Wade sound familiar but I don't know him.

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The fans are the ones paying these guys salaries. I for one will not go to an NBA game ever. I have met a couple of these "stars" before they were in the NBA and they are honestly nothing but thugs and gangsters. A local high school has put several into college and the pros. No respect for anyone including the police and school officials.
As far as going into the stands after the fans I say force them out of the league. Make them go to Europe and play for a fraction of what they currently make. They are getting paid millions of dollars to play a kids game. If they cant take a little criticism let them get a real job making less than $50 grand a year and have someone bitch them out for making an error. I'm a police officer and have to take criticism and verbal abuse (sometimes physical) all the time from turds. I'm not asking for sympathy or a shoulder to cry on from anybody. I knew the rigors of the job way before taking it. Just saying that they get paid millions to "play", get over the little bumps in the road to millions of dollars or get the hell out.
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