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post #1 of 27 Old 11-22-2004, 6:23 PM Thread Starter
 
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I've got an offer on the table and really don't know what to do so I thought I'd ask the business savvy people here. Job is a 25k a year paycut, but with OT, bonus, and some other stuff, I could get it up to a 10-15k cut. Job is 33 miles from where I live so a move might be in order due to the phucked traffic up here. I've tried like hell for out of state positions, but companies are just throwing the resumes away. I've verified this by talking with HR people around the country and friends in the industry.

This job is a definite step back and I'm very concerned on how it will affect my career. If you take a lower pay position, when you go to get another position in the future, they are going to look closely at your current position, it's most definitely an employer's market right now. That could be a real ass burner because they always ask what you make now Financially, I could hold out for 3 more months but I'd be really rolling the dice. If I take this position, I can forget about weekly/monthly investing as long as I have the position, which really sucks. The hours also suck, 12 hour shifts on the days I work. Honestly I don't want the job, I don't like the location, the pay, or the work I'd be doing. But it's a damn job, I could roll the dice and be out of work for who knows how long.
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Re: Job advice

Take the job and then quit if it dosent work out. Like a temp job......

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If you are in the IT field ...... outlook isnt so hot anyhow. Take the job and meanwhile keep looking.
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If you are in the IT field ...... outlook isnt so hot anyhow. Take the job and meanwhile keep looking.

Second that. It seems easier to get a job while you have a job.
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Agree on take the job and one other thought...

Please don't me IT folks. But it seems to me that IT pay got grossly inflated during the tech bubble and some (not all) of the cut is the market readjusting to reality. I might be wrong as I do scientific programming and systems engineering (neither of which got the boost in that era) but from the fringes....

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It all depends on the tolerance/existence of your current position. I had a recent opportunity as you described (albeit a bit different circumstance) but I ultimately determined that my departure to that org would have to arise out of necessity. Which fortunately, did not and hopefully does not exist.

But then again I'm on the farthermost cusp of what you'd call a "tech" field these days. I know as you get closer to the core technologies/players or new technologies things get more volatile, or so it seems. So it really depends if where you would be going is a + or a - as far as long term stability vs. where you are now. Doesen't sound good where you are, but it's all about making YOU happy.

If money in your wallet = happiness, hang on to the end. The talented folks never have a problem finding a job in a pinch. It sounds like the job you mention above is one of those jobs you can hopefully find again...unless your salary is rediculously padded.

Having gone through a ~30k$ pay cut a few years ago, I'd never do it voluntarily. Then again we're both single guys so it's ok to think like that, this week
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I'm not in IT, I have worked in IT before, but that was 4 years ago. In my field, the employers are taking advantage of the current job market. I've never been overpaid, either accurate pay or under.

The thing about this deal is that I don't want to burn a bridge by working for this company for 3 months and quitting. My industry (Telecomm) is shrinking and that is not a good idea.
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Treat it as a temporary position until you find something better...you need income regardless.

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Re: Job advice

p.s. I know I've asked this before..but what is your field of expertise? what discipline of what primary technology? (no need to give corp. names etc.). You're a noc tech right? ..close to it?
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p.s. I know I've asked this before..but what is your field of expertise? what discipline of what primary technology? (no need to give corp. names etc.). You're a noc tech right? ..close to it?
This position will be in a NOC. I've worked as a switch tech primarily focusing on SONET testing and turnup. My last position was as a VOIP engineer.
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This position will be in a NOC. I've worked as a switch tech primarily focusing on SONET testing and turnup. My last position was as a VOIP engineer.
Sounds like network to me. They are reorging my little dept into a more defined noc and seperate server functions which is why I am thinking of going into a diff department.

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Re: Job advice

Not a whole lot of fiber being lit up right now booth. Take the position.

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Not a whole lot of fiber being lit up right now booth. Take the position.

Fujitsu? Turin? Familiar equipment?
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booth, send me your resume and I'll see if I can drum up anything. How do you feel about St Louis? I heard we may have some NOC openings there.
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Agree on take the job and one other thought...

Please don't me IT folks. But it seems to me that IT pay got grossly inflated during the tech bubble and some (not all) of the cut is the market readjusting to reality. I might be wrong as I do scientific programming and systems engineering (neither of which got the boost in that era) but from the fringes....

Booth, as a non-IT specialist I'd agree with sob's comments. It looks from the financial community as if things will get worse rather than better for six months or so. I'd work from the new job as a base and improve on the next economic / IT specific uptick. From here that looks second half of 2005, not before.
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