Originally Posted by slodsm
I seriously am so disgusted with the amount of rights that criminals have it blows my mind. What puts in an even greater state of awe is how people just don't see it. If all of this is your idea of freedom though, enjoy because I am still deploying to the middle east for 6 months of every year to fight for it.
I went out of town and missed your excellent post, but would like to respond.
First, thanks for your service. I do appreciate it. I hope you are not alluding to the idea that I've never been in uniform so I should not have an opinion on the matter, or that somehow you are more right than I.
I stand firm. "Safety" is an illusion. I do see your point, I just disagree.
Look at countries that afford their citizens "less" privacy protection than an American, like those you may have been to. Is there any less crime even in places with draconian penalties? And I don't mean just third world countries, Great Britain is a great modern, post-industrial example. They have crime spiraling out of control as they take away gun ownership and take more control of people's lives. The government taking away our rights will not protect us from those that wish us harm. It is that simple. The gestapo in the TSA will not stop a dedicated, practiced terrorist from dropping any plane they choose. But Joe idiot sure is impressed when his fingernail clippers are taken away and they make him take his shoes off.
We all are going to die. A certain percentage of us are statistically to die violent deaths. Taking away our rights in the interim does not change that, whether people think it will or not.
I've read a bunch on this, the only thing I've seen a correlation to a drop in crime is an increase in the standard of living (which is directly tied to education level), and the extension of prison terms for real criminals. I would like to point out, the VAST majority of murders are "bad guy vs bad guy". The vast majority of crimes and prison sentences are "drug" related. The murder numbers look scary, but the fact is, an average American is likely to live out their life without meeting a homicidal maniac or "terrorist" in their home. No matter what Dubya would like you to believe.