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post #1 of 16 Old 07-27-2003, 2:30 PM Thread Starter
 
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Re: Back form the dealer sales meeting....

The new gear is awesome.I'll have samples in a few days.Joe rocket stepped it up big time!!!!I'll have a racer suit from duhamel or sombody soon as well.Nicky's suit is made from pitrds leather(had a repsil crash suit there)it's lighet thiner and just as strong as a normal leather.It's infused with a cermaic to make it disapate heat ...cool ####.New boots that look like daytonas....to much to remember.Repsol jacket and gloves...


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Cool I need new gear, ahem a little incident last week.....

Can't wait for the new lids.
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Ceramic....to dissipate heat? *

Ceramic is a very very poor conductor of heat, it's not going to dissipate heat worth a $hit. I don't recommend using that sales pitch to anyone who knows much about materials.

They may have been trying to insulate from heat, but that's potentially gonna make it one very hot wearing suit.







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luvtolean : Ceramic....to dissipate heat? *

Ceramic is a very very poor conductor of heat, it's not going to dissipate heat worth a $hit. *I don't recommend using that sales pitch to anyone who knows much about materials.

They may have been trying to insulate from heat, but that's potentially gonna make it one very hot wearing suit.
Ever heat something up in a ceramic bowl in chemistry class, touch it 1/2 hr later and have it be warm still?
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Re: Back form the dealer sales meeting....

I got to thinking and looked up the thermal conductivity of leather, and it is indeed lower than your average ceramic. *I guess it may help with heat flow, but it seems to me you'll kill the breathability of the leather.

It also seems to me that being more thermally conductive means you're more likely to get burned as you slide down the pavement....either way I see no reason other than marketing for it.







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Re: Back form the dealer sales meeting....

Held sells a similar product.....ceramic impregnated leather. They claim it has 25% better abrasion resistance...

Held with Armor-Tan

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This leather is actually supplied by Pittards.
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Re: Back form the dealer sales meeting....

What about weight?
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Re: Back form the dealer sales meeting....

That makes a lot more sense than the BS thermo story. I'll buy that.



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Re: Back form the dealer sales meeting....

Call me the skeptic, but even the abrasion thing sounded a bit much.....I'd really like to see a blind test...

The only reason I believe it at all, is because it comes from Pittards, and people like Held are using it.. :dunno:

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Re: Back form the dealer sales meeting....

The pitards is alot lighter than normal leather.Nicky's gp suit(i had a crashed one in my hands)is actually 4 pounds lighter cause hond hrc japan requested a lighter suit...more to come.
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ok, retard here. How would you get ceramic in leather? isnt ceramic like stone or hard clay?

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read the link....it has pictures and everything....all work safe...

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Baketech : pictures and everything....all work safe...
I guess you didn't really want him to read it
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Re: Back form the dealer sales meeting....

I'd be interested if anyone knows how the little 'armor plates' adhere to the leather fibers. Sounds a little like the gold plated steel that you might by at a mall kiosk.
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Baketech : Call me the skeptic, but even the abrasion thing sounded a bit much.....I'd really like to see a blind test...

The only reason I believe it at all, is because it comes from Pittards, and people like Held are using it.. :dunno:
Actually, most of the better knee pucks have ceramic in them to help with abrasion resistance. I have 2 almost 2 years now on my Teknic pucks and they are still going strong. Granted, I seem to drag a knee less now than I used to but they are still going pretty well.
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