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post #1 of 29 Old 02-09-2005, 9:45 PM Thread Starter
 
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Should felons be allowed to vote?

There's an initiative in my home state of Nebraska that would, if passed into law, allow convicted felons the opportunity to vote. I'm curious to know what you guys think.

http://www.omaha.com/index.php?u_pg=1673&u_sid=1331720

What shocks me about this first step is how the bill even got out of committee in the first place. Nebraska is about as red a state as you can find (and that has nothing to do with the five time national champion football team down in Lincoln - affectionately called the "Big Red"). But now the bill wins first round approval by an overwhelming margin.



Note: There is a Fireblades member who I once clashed with over something related to his own felony conviction some years back. I now respect the guy and consider him a buddy - I hope he sees this and decides to post.

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Re: Should felons be allowed to vote?

Are you talking about locked up felons....or those that have paid their debt?

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Re: Should felons be allowed to vote?

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Are you talking about locked up felons....or those that have paid their debt?
From the first paragraph of the link you didn't click on...

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State lawmakers, voting 41-8, gave first-round approval Wednesday to a bill that would restore a Nebraska felon's right to vote two years after completion of his or her sentence.
So it would seem to apply after they've paid their debt.
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Re: Should felons be allowed to vote?

So what's the beef? Sounds reasonable to me...

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Re: Should felons be allowed to vote?

Not saying I have a beef with it, just asking what others thought.

Does your state allow convicts to vote eventually?
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Does your state allow convicts to vote eventually?

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Phock you. You didn't click on my link. I'm ignoring yours as well.
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Re: Should felons be allowed to vote?

I feel that convicted felons that have paid their debt to society should be allowed to vote.

I have a friend that was my foreman when I worked construction. He taught me to weld and how to operate a 30 ton crane. This is a very bright individual who did something stupid in his youth. He paid his debt and moved on. I respect his opinion and have often thought that his right to vote being taken away was prolonged and unwarranted punishment. He never brought this subject up... bitching and complaining isn't in his character.

Edit: Well hell... My state restored his right to vote also. (maybe that's why he never complained.) I bet there's another right that wasn't restored though..... ZZZzzzzzzz..... Plunk... *click*.

Edit the Edit: After some research I've discovered that this right was recently restored in Georgia... in degrees (on parole/off parole, on probation/off probation, in custody, free and various other combinations between.)

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I feel that convicted felons that have paid their debt to society should be allowed to vote.

I have a friend that was my foreman when I worked construction. He taught me to weld and how to operate a 30 ton crane. This is a very bright individual who did something stupid in his youth. He paid his debt and moved on. I respect his opinion and have often thought that his right to vote being taken away was prolonged and unwarranted punishment. He never brought this subject up... bitching and complaining isn't in his character.

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Re: Should felons be allowed to vote?

are you ****in kidding me? hell no - they should have no rights.
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Re: Should felons be allowed to vote?

Violent felons.... No, Most Non-violent offenders Im fine with as long as they serve there time. Same with guns as long as it was non violent and didnt involve drugs, I dont see why someone who has reformed themselves shouldnt be allowed to hunt or sport shoot.
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Re: Should felons be allowed to vote?

If less than 50% of us vote in a non-presidential election, how many of these people do you figure will avoid recidivism after 2 years, AND register, AND vote?

It's not going to be a huge number, believe me. And if they manage that, they're probably as qualified to vote as anybody. And more than those who don't avail themselves of the right.



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Re: Should felons be allowed to vote?

I think felons should have 100% of rights restored upon completion of punishment (including parole). That or they should get discounted taxes while they are partial citizens.

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Re: Should felons be allowed to vote?

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I think felons should have 100% of rights restored upon completion of punishment (including parole). That or they should get discounted taxes while they are partial citizens.

I actually agree with brother Blue, here. I never realized that convicts could NOT vote AFTER they got out of jail. That seems kind of silly to me: "you've paid your debt to society (according to a jury of your peers) but you can't vote for the Presidential elections."
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