I work out 4-5 nights a week (combination of about 40% cardio, 60% weight training)

I eat clean, diarize all of my food intake and exersize output.

I drink about 2 litres of water per day.

I'm 5'10", 172 lbs, muscular build but I CAN'T LOSE THE LAST 5 POUNDS AROUND MY WASTE and I want a toned stomach.

I'm thinking of using a protein shake and a fatburner, but a lot has changed since I last tried that stuff. In college I supplemented quite a bit and I was down to 6% body fat.

Who can recommend some products that might work?

Thanks

IMHO.......Phuck it. If you're already working that hard and it's not going away then it's going to be too much of a PITA to keep off anyway. Besides that, any lady that is going to be concerned about that last 5 is a worthless CNUT anyway.

Appreciate your opinion, but this isn't about the ladies. It's for my own satisfaction and (ahem) vanity.

I already have a gorgeous woman who's more than happy with my physique.

I've been taking HotRox. It's okay. Not as good as any ephedra supp, but we can't get those anymore so I'm screwed.

Good thing is that it doesn't give me a buzz, but it does give me a 'pick me up'.

HD

ROTFLMGDMFAO
Oh and congrats on the good chick


One more thing about the GF.....This thread is worthless without pics

Oh wait! Didn't some other dude post pics of your half naked GF?
If so.........Nice Job son, I remember her being hot as hell.

Yes that was my brother who so kindly posted that. These are more work safe. As you can see, I don't need to impress "the ladies".


EDIT: Sorry I am a huge show-off when it comes to my girlfriend.

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Nice!!!

I can see why, she's a hottie.

That last five pounds around your midsection will prove to be the toughest for you to lose. The only way I've been able to reduce my gut to the point you can actually see my abs (even a little) is to eat a high protein diet, keep up on the strength training to maintain what muscle mass you've already got, and cut junk calories to as close to zero as you possibly can (no fried anything; no refined sugar; no bread - unless its occasional whole wheat and only in small portions).

An MRP (meal replacement powder) would be a good choice. It's a nutrient dense meal but remains under 300 calories when mixed with water. I used to do EAS Myoplex MRPs, but don't tolerate them well since having the flu. I'm eating Myoplex Carb Sense bars now in their stead.

Finally, you gotta do some cardio to burn those fat stores.

Edit: Sounds like you're working out pretty hard as it is. Try changing your routine to shock your body into new growth and to spur your metabolism. Dump the beauty movements and concentrate on Olympic style compound movements that cause you to fire multiple muscle groups simultaneously (i.e. squats, deads, military press, bench, stiff legged deads, cleans, lunges, dips, etc).

Haven't eaten sweets or any junk for 6 weeks now (except for some banana muffins I made last weekend.) Diet is high-protein, lots of lean meats, eggs, and dairy. Beer not too often (maybe average of 3 a week).

I do mostly compound movements with dumbells, except of course for curls, skullcrushers, pec crossovers and triceps extensions. I try to keep my routine fresh and mix it up every once in a while.

Cardio consists of 20 minutes warmup on an elliptical trainer, high intensity varying from 150-170 bpm heart rate.

I've gotten lazy with leg exersizes; some squats and deadlifts would probably do me some good, I have naturally big quads and calves. I'm just terrified to get back into a leg routine because I know there will be a few days when I can barely walk, go up or down stairs, etc.

Forget the isolation movements and try military press, incline barbell press, and weighted dips for awhile. You may find you won't need to train arms by themselves.

I don't have the genetics you have. I'd be something of an ecomorph if I didn't lift. But instead of being 6'3" and weighing about 180 pounds like I did before I started strength training, I'm now a pretty lean 212-215 . . . depending on lunch. The roundabout point is, I can understand your concern about the lower body movements, but some squats and deads might be just what the doctor ordered to shock your body into new growth and/or to burn up those extra calories you're looking to shed.

[QUOTE=Chain]... weighing about 180 pounds like I did before I started strength training...QUOTE]

Did the kids in school ever tie a ball and rope to your head?

Sorry couldn't resist.

Heh, that's pretty funny. You should know, however, that I'm about 45 pounds heavier now, I pack heat, and I fight dirty.

It's alright brother. We know you're trying.

I am no expert but find myself in the same boat you are in. I'm 5'11 and flux between 167 and 170 but want to loose another 5. I've been reading about nutrition from several sources, most notable Chris Carmichel's "eat right to train right". One thing that really stood out in that book was that protiens tend to burn like a wet log. You sound plenty active enough to up the carbs so the fire will burn hotter at the expense of so much protien. The book says most Americans get enough protien from our regular diet and supplementation is not necessary AND that any supplementation above what your body can use is easily stored by your body as fat. Make sure your getting your proper nutrients and find a way to keep a small calorie deficiet. It'll come off.
good luck