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post #1 of 8 Old 08-13-2003, 7:16 AM Thread Starter
 
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Re: NWS

Just musing a little on the true meaning of the NWS designation following Freq's little piece. (oops, Freudian slip there)
It's clear it's the result of lots of employers initiating rules on the use of the internet in the workplace, but what's not clear is the motivation behind the rules.
Why is it that it seems to apply more to matters of an overtly sexual nature than anything else? Surely the real problem is employees taking time off to post on .org etc.
I can understand that some few individuals may be offended by topless whatsit or whatever flying around the office, but is this not a rather prudish and excessively conservative position to take?
I see similar thinking on the design of internet access filters etc. Just who are the thought police/moral Ayatollahas responsible for deciding this on our behalf that this ultra conservative positioning is appropriate?
It's not that I'm promoting a porn in the office approach. Just more that maybe the porn industry is largely the result regulation and restriction increasing the attraction and further reducing people's ability to deal in a naturally balanced way with these things.....
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Most of my clients would be liable for a sexual harassment lawsuit if they allowed users to view sexually based content on their office workstations. This is a harsh reality in the US and happens everyday.

More than 6 employess that I know of have been dismissed without notice for doing the above. Standard practice these days is for employees to sign a very strictly worded agreement as a condition for employment. They acknowledge that they can be fired on the spot for breaking any of these mutually agreed 'rules of employment'.

and your girlfriend too.
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Re: NWS

Haven't you heard? We Americans fear sex!

As Jack Nicholson once said about MPAA film ratings (in the 70's, I think):
'Chop a titty off? Rated R. Suck a titty? Rated X. Go figure!'

While I would agree that I wouldn't want my employees wasting time during work hours, most people in American society have a knee jerk reaction to anything sexual IMO.

And, I still dont understand why prostitution is illegal in most of this country.
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abtech : Most of my clients would be liable for a sexual harassment lawsuit if they allowed users to view sexually based content on their office workstations. *This is a harsh reality in the US and happens everyday.

More than 6 employess that I know of have been dismissed without notice for doing the above. *Standard practice these days is for employees to sign a very strictly worded agreement as a condition for employment. *They acknowledge that they can be fired on the spot for breaking any of these mutually agreed 'rules of employment'.
We had to take mandatory sexual-harrassment training here at work. Developed by a legal-team no doubt, it stated that having nudy pictures viewable on your screen as another employee walks by is considered sexual harrassment and you and your company can be sued for it. Yup...this is what we've come to. I could stumble across a porn site by accident (fat-finger ESPN or CHEVEROLET and see what happens ) and lose my job if another co-worker happens to see it and deems it offensive.
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Supperconductor : And, I still dont understand why prostitution is illegal in most of this country.
totaly agree

oh and Ondablade, it means Not Work Safe.

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People need to realise that if something offends them, they do not need to keep looking.

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It means we dont want/need to see your/your buddies smashed penis with a stick coming out of it at work * * *

All though---I did kind of wonder



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Back in 1995 (in the early days of the net) I was working at Hewlett-Packard as a 'Scheduler' (programmer responsible for making sure every production process ran in the proper order... across about 20 pieces of heavy iron). We consolidated the datacenters and since I was the least senior member of the team I was placed in 'Excess' (HP's term for lay-off candidate). So I slowly lost all my job duties but they wanted me to search for work (in our outside the company) on their time. No problem.

One afternoon I was chatting some some friends back-east on a pre-cursor to ICQ and was sent a blind link to check out. Dumb-arse sent me a link to Playboy. I properly thanked him and we went about our conversation.

Next morning I was met at the door as I carded in with security and my manager. They walked me to my cube where I was instructed to shutdown my equipment and surrender all company ID and pack my personal belongins. I was on administrative leave.

Making a long and ugly story shot, that singe link showed in on the firwall logs and alerted other members of the department. A HUGE hullabaloo went up. It took me over a week to clear my name but by that time the damage was done.

HP ened up paying me a nice severance package to just go away, which I hapily did. A small portion of that money bought my first motorcycle, but that's not the point. That was 1995 and they were monitoring access VERY cloesly then.

Things have only become more liberal (yes, I know.. shock but it was those 'free thinkings' and the 'sexual harrassment lot' that started all this. Funny thing is, the gay guy just down the isle from me could have half-naked men on a calendar in very plain view but I could not have a bikini or similar in mine. Regardless.. lawsuits were rare then.. so think about how companies view this now.

So anyone that sends or posts and image or link that is of possibly objectionable material could be contributing to the loss of someone elses job. Yes, I know the argument you are thinking already 'Well, they should be working and not surfing.' True.. but at least have some consideration of the exposure others must deal with RE such NWS matters.

Being self-employed has many dangers and pitfalls but one of the perks is NOBODY is looking over my shoulder. This is my equipment, my network and my time. YMMV.
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