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When helping accident victims, be careful...

...and check to make sure there isn't empty space between the two bridges.

I'll concede that it was 2:30am and it was dark, but still...

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Re: When helping accident victims, be careful...

same thing happend in la crosse. there was a car accident on the other side of the highway on a split bridge and the guy jumped over the guardrail thinking it was solid ground and fell 50 feet to his death.

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Re: When helping accident victims, be careful...

No good deed goes unpunished, huh?


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Re: When helping accident victims, be careful...

Hmm there is a wall here I think I will just ignore that it is guarding something...



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Re: When helping accident victims, be careful...

Stupid hurts.

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That's horrible.




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Re: When helping accident victims, be careful...

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Stupid hurts.
A little harsh there NH? 2:41AM probably not well lit, and the guy was going to give help. Why is he not worthy of being called a Hero. Don't take this wrong, but running into a burning building may be brave, but not the smartest of ideas sometimes.

Sheep, the wall usually protects oncoming traffic from colliding. Not unusual for there to be a guardrail on a bridge.
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Re: When helping accident victims, be careful...

I think it's coincidence. Still horrible though.

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Re: When helping accident victims, be careful...

As we always say, "Hero's are great but 2 victims are much worse"

I'm really shocked NHFF would say Stupid hurts. After seeing first hand the tragedy that unfolded in Worcester when multiple firefighters were lost trying to save their Brother Firefighters I can admit I'd do the same unless specifically ordered. Now, why should we be so shocked or think less of our fellow man who cares enough about others to go the extra mile to risk their own life in the hope of helping another. **** does happen but if this man truly had no intention other than helping another person, I am grateful for the sacrifice he made.

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Re: When helping accident victims, be careful...

This guy was in the police academy too.
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As we always say, "Hero's are great but 2 victims are much worse"
Exactly my point.

Is running into a burning building smart? Not particularly. BUT.... do firefighters run into building without assessing the situation first? NO! We stop, look around, try to figure out what's going on first. We have SAFETY OFFICERS. People with a lot of experience who watch out for potential problems and then warn the FF's to get out of Dodge should the need arise.

Rule number 1 of firefighting? Look out for number 1 (aka: yourself).
Rule number 2? Look out for your partner.
FF's are trained to not rush in blindly to a situation. EMT's are trained to do the same thing.
I used to be aN EMT practical exam evaluator. You know what the first words out of every person need to be AT EVERY STATION? "Is the scene safe?"
Guess what, if you don't say those four little words and ace everything else... you fail.

This person ran blindly into a situation trying to help out. Hero? No way. Nice guy? In all probability. Hero's are great. I like heros....I like it better when they're alive though, instead of being dead from a stupid mistake.
It would've taken 5 seconds for him to look over the wall...and his friends and family would not be going through what they are right now. Very selfish if you ask me.

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That's the difference between trained and untrained. We are trained to think our best during the worst possible situations. Most people stop thinking completely. Knowing now that he was going to the Police academy it all makes sense. Them damn police are always rushing into places they shouldn't be, trying to be heros.

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You know what the first words out of every person need to be AT EVERY STATION? "Is the scene safe?"
Guess what, if you don't say those four little words and ace everything else... you fail.
Can't tell you how many trainees I "electricuted" because they didn't see the electrical cord laying in the same puddle that the victim was in. They just rushed in without looking around.

That said, I feel bad for the family and friends. All the guy did was try to help RIP buddy.
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Re: When helping accident victims, be careful...

The way the word "hero" gets thrown around nowadays I'd say he was definitely one.

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Exactly my point.

Is running into a burning building smart? Not particularly. BUT.... do firefighters run into building without assessing the situation first? NO! We stop, look around, try to figure out what's going on first. We have SAFETY OFFICERS. People with a lot of experience who watch out for potential problems and then warn the FF's to get out of Dodge should the need arise.

Rule number 1 of firefighting? Look out for number 1 (aka: yourself).
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FF's are trained to not rush in blindly to a situation. EMT's are trained to do the same thing.
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Guess what, if you don't say those four little words and ace everything else... you fail.

This person ran blindly into a situation trying to help out. Hero? No way. Nice guy? In all probability. Hero's are great. I like heros....I like it better when they're alive though, instead of being dead from a stupid mistake.
It would've taken 5 seconds for him to look over the wall...and his friends and family would not be going through what they are right now. Very selfish if you ask me.

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