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Need help building a ramp to a deck.

Tomorrow am Im helping a buddy build a ramp to a deck for a diabled gentleman. It is to be 12 feet long, and 44" wide and run up the side of the deck. Right now Im thinking that 4 lengths of 2x6 running the length of the ramp, with the decking run across it and screwed into each 2x6, and a rail running up the side. The deck is already in place and it will rest on concrete at the bottom, so once we brace it to the deck, will I need a footing 1/2 way or no?
Thanks to any who can provide some insight, my buddy has done some decking before but this is his first ramp. Im helping him get it done so we can go hunting all weekend as soon as it is done.
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Re: Need help building a ramp to a deck.

ok, not sure exactly the height you're trying to traverse. Going on disability building code alone you need to have a 4 foot level landing every 8 foot run with the climb being no greater than 4 feet (2 to 1). If you're not worried about ADA code and he can make it up a straight ramp with no rest then you still need to figure in the height gain over the 12 feet. 4 boards across will be fine for a 12' run with no static load. This will give you less than 16" OC. With a span of 12 feet, no static load (a second floor or roof), and only live load (one guy wheeling up the ramp) 6" lumber 16" OC should be fine. However, I strongly suggest you add one 4' landing in the middle of the run. It'll make everything much stronger and make the ramp much more user friendly. Also remember if you have to conform to ADA building code you will need hand rails on both sides! Have fun!

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Re: Need help building a ramp to a deck.

I dont know if ADA code applies as a lady got his # from a friend and wants it on to her trailer. So what your saying is something like this for a staight line ramp?
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Re: Need help building a ramp to a deck.

And I dont know for sure, but from what I can tell, the total elevation gain will be 4 feet over the 12'. It is a deck off of a trailer.
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Re: Need help building a ramp to a deck.

Yup, it really depends on height. How high is the deck. Depending on height, 12 feet is really a long way for a wheelchair to travel with no rest. With the landing they have a chance to stop and rest. Of course some wheelchair bound people I know are stubborn as hell and would rather drag their ass up a 4 foot cliff.

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Re: Need help building a ramp to a deck.

Sorry about the numbers I gave you earlier. I was thinking out of my ass for a second. I was a bit backwards. For a 8' run you would want a 2' rise, not 4'. ADA would be 1 foot for every 8 feet. Now, knowing you want a 4' rise you would want a continuous 16' ramp. You could do it with 2 8' ramps with a 4' landing in the middle. You could also change direction. A 12' ramp climbing 4' would be possible for an electric wheelchair or someone very accustomed to their chair. With only 12' you'd be making a 4' landing and then two steeper 4' ramps. If you could make a 16' ramp with two 6' ramps and one 4' landing it'd be great. I know this is all confusing but it all depends on the person, the landscape, and the extend of the building code you wish to cover! Either make a straight 12' ramp or a 16' with a 4' landing!

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Re: Need help building a ramp to a deck.

My buddy and I are both going there in the morning to make a few more measurements and to get money for the lumber. My buddy is more of a lets get it done type, while I like to think it out before hand and plan it out. I volunteered to help him with it, and asked if I needed to bring anything and he said my drill, saws, and anything else we might need as he doesnt have any of it... So I guess he was going to get amish on it had I not offered to help.

When we go to get the lumber money, Ill see if I can get some info on the gentleman including what type of chair and how long he has been in the chair.
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Re: Need help building a ramp to a deck.

Also remember you'll need some larger drill bits to lag the 4x4 posts for the railing. Other than that a circular saw, a reciprocating saw and a few drills will do the trick. Also remember you'll have to have some sort of landing at the top. You know what I mean? If you have a 12' ramp coming up the side of the deck you'll need a flat spot at the top of the ramp otherwise you wouldn't be able to get onto the deck in a wheelchair. Even though the top of the ramp would be flush with the deck, 4 feet down the ramp would be a huge step up onto the deck. You get what I'm saying?

If you're not going to have support posts going to the ground I think you'd want at least 2x8 lumber for the stringers. Otherwise the railing will be pretty wobbly being supported only by 2x6 lumber. If the posts or the railing go to the ground then there is no worry.

If you need serious help feel free to ask as I've build decks to hold up cars!

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Also remember you'll need some larger drill bits to lag the 4x4 posts for the railing. Other than that a circular saw, a reciprocating saw and a few drills will do the trick. Also remember you'll have to have some sort of landing at the top. You know what I mean? If you have a 12' ramp coming up the side of the deck you'll need a flat spot at the top of the ramp otherwise you wouldn't be able to get onto the deck in a wheelchair. Even though the top of the ramp would be flush with the deck, 4 feet down the ramp would be a huge step up onto the deck. You get what I'm saying?
Yep makes since... I have no idea what the deck looks like, but I do see that we'll need a flat spot to turn onto the deck.

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If you're not going to have support posts going to the ground I think you'd want at least 2x8 lumber for the stringers. Otherwise the railing will be pretty wobbly being supported only by 2x6 lumber. If the posts or the railing go to the ground then there is no worry.
The rough plan is to have the strigers cut at an angle at the bottom to mate to the ground, then brace them to the deck at the top. I was wondering if we should brace them together, or not. You think the 2x8's will be sufficient unbraced?
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Re: Need help building a ramp to a deck.

You'll want to have joist hangers at the top where the stringers meet the header. The bottom you'll want to cut 1 1/2" short and have one 2x8 pressure treated board sitting on the slab that the stringers are attached to. From there up you don't really need any bracing laterally since the deck boards will act as bridging across the top of the board and you really won't have any lateral twisting force on the stringers. Also, you'd need some sort of posts at the landing since there will be no structural support to the ground just thru the attached ramps. The landings need to be self supporting and the ramps rely on them for strength!

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Re: Need help building a ramp to a deck.

Gotcha, so (4) 4x4's for legs of the landing, and joist hangers from deck to ramp and landing to ramp....
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Re: Need help building a ramp to a deck.

Well, you could skip the joist hangers if you toenailed in from both sides in the back of the joists. I'm used to building these things for tanks to drive up ( not literally). But yes, set some 4x4 posts at the corners of the landings. You'll only need two posts on the top landing that joins the deck since the other half of the landing will be lag bolted to the rim board of the deck. If you have a middle landing you will want 4 posts to support it and to help brace from side-to-side movement. You don't necessarily need concrete footings. If you don't have frost problems just set up some brick pavers as a solid foundation for the posts.

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