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Clockwork Lime: a wind-up.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4445060.stm

What do you tech guys think of this? It seems a realistic possibility. Millions of cheap laptops for emerging countries' schools?
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Re: Clockwork Lime: a wind-up.

Let's hope it does multimedia....
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Re: Clockwork Lime: a wind-up.

The idea of everyone in the world having access to a computer/email I agree with. I have spent many days in countries where most people are not able to do this... I would give a lot to this cause.

But this crap…


""The initial plan is to start with countries that are big and very different to each other," said Professor Negroponte."

"To take part in the initiative, governments have to commit to buying a million machines."

"We really believe we can really make literally hundreds of millions of these machines around the world," Professor Negroponte said, as costs continued to drop.

"I hope there would be community pressure so it does not appear in the secondary market. The technology is in it so that the machine is disabled if not connected to the network after a few days," he added.

If this was so altruistic why disable a machine in a thrid world country that couldn't connect most likely for legitimate problems?

This is just another way to make money, nothing more.
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Re: Clockwork Lime: a wind-up.

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Re: Clockwork Lime: a wind-up.

Well maybe it would discourage the old "in-out".

And then there's this asshole...
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Re: Clockwork Lime: a wind-up.

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"I hope there would be community pressure so it does not appear in the secondary market. The technology is in it so that the machine is disabled if not connected to the network after a few days," he added.

If this was so altruistic why disable a machine in a thrid world country that couldn't connect most likely for legitimate problems?
I agree, this seems extraordinary.
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This is just another way to make money, nothing more.
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They have been successful with the crank radios, this is just an extension of the the lessons they learned.

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I agree, this seems extraordinary.
How else do you prevent black marketeers...

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Re: Clockwork Lime: a wind-up.

LED, non-backlit screens and no hard disks for cheapness and reliability. Connectivity above all. Freeware.

[edit: not a response to Bake, to whom I respond: what's black about a free market?]
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Re: Clockwork Lime: a wind-up.

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[edit: not a response to Bake, to whom I respond: what's black about a free market?]
At issue is the prevention of recipient governments selling the devices rather than distributing them according to the program guidelines.

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Re: Clockwork Lime: a wind-up.

Next is the demand from the socialists that the U.S. buy them and donate them abroad.
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Re: Clockwork Lime: a wind-up.

"He added that it was critical that children actually owned, instead of loaned, the machines."

Sounds like a market transaction to me. Ownership, but not allowed to sell?
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Re: Clockwork Lime: a wind-up.

Understand that...but not sure we are even talking about the same thing...

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Re: Clockwork Lime: a wind-up.

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"I hope there would be community pressure so it does not appear in the secondary market. The technology is in it so that the machine is disabled if not connected to the network after a few days," he added.
This sounds mostly like someone approaching the issue and speaking from a purely "collegiate" point of view with little thought to how things work in the real world. This type of policy wouldn't pass beyond the test group.

As far as computers being weighed on as a heavy learning tool.... my opinion is declining. It's important that people are able to use them for many reasons, but I'm seeing them moved into situations just for the sake of having them there, compromising the actual teach/learn situation that goes on.
My most recent math teacher was constantly using a laptop, projector, etc. to do all his work on, which takes LOTS longer than usign an actual white-board and not permitting as much spontaneous deviation in topic. The class lacked content and depth while frustrating everyone while the computer was "dealt with". He also relied heavily on graphic calculators and taught people to use them instead of doing actual problem solving and math by hand.
I moved into a different class with my prior instructor (for different reasons)- no computers, no calculators. Pure hard-core math. ZERO wasted time. A VERY high quality education.
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Re: Clockwork Lime: a wind-up.

+1

Outside of research for papers, and word processing, I don't find computers to be a very useful learning tool for most of the educational experience until you hit your junior year of college or so. (well, for engineers anyway, this is when we start using them to run simulations and do design work)

It's like the guy with a Palm that ends up spending hours of his day "organizing" it. Total waste of time. And with time in class at a premium, I don't think a computer is very useful.



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