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Lucas Oil Stabilizer on your manifold is bad

So I went to change the oil in my car today cause its been quite a while and is definetly overdue (not in miles because I hardly drove it all summer) and I figured I'd try one of those K&N oil filters and that Lucas Oil Stablizer stuff. The filter seems pretty sweet (after reading that stuff about how crappy Frams are I'm off them and we were out of AC Delco's and Bosch's for my car so I spent the extra few bucks on the K&N. I also get 20% off it so thats cool)

So anyway the point of this post. That oil stabilizer stuff is really thick and sticky so I squeezed the bottle too hard and it slipped in my hand and got all over the valve cover and exhaust manifold. So I wiped off what I could (it was getting dark and hard to see) and then took the car for a ride. once it started getting hot and burning off that stuff smells so freakin bad.

car seemed to run a little smoother, not sure if it was just the new oil or the stabilizer stuff but I don't recall it ever feeling much different after an oil change than it was before.

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Re: Lucas Oil Stabilizer on your manifold is bad

What exactly is oil stabilizer?

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How much oil does your car use? If none keep clean oil in and don't use things like that.

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Re: Lucas Oil Stabilizer on your manifold is bad

doesn't burn an ounce. but old cars with a lot of miles generally lose some performance and I figure might as well see if it'll do anything. if it hurts and blows up the engine oh well. It does has 158k miles on it.

http://www.lucasoil.com/products/dis...tid=2&loc=show
basically it's suppose to help reduce friction. says it increases miles per gallon, hopefully thats true because I get around 12-13mpg so any help would be nice.

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Re: Lucas Oil Stabilizer on your manifold is bad

We can get that stuff in the UK. I've used it in a worn gearbox, it is simply brilliant. Had a car that whined fit to bust in 1st and 2nd gears, put 50/50 Lucas and G/box oil in and it was like fitting a new box, and stayed that way too.
I'm not sure you'd want to put it into an engine that wasn't badly worn and it for sure won't improve fuel economy. This is because it is likely to increase viscous drag. You fit thinner weight oils to do that, and thicker to reduce noise and oil consumption. They have a neat little demo device that shows treated oil forming a bead around gears where untreated just wets them.
Worn engines and boxes, great, otherwise I wouldn't bother.
Best performance booster on older engines is the detergent additives that free the rings in the lands, restoring compression and reducing blowby. They really work, seen it done many times. It's used in the UK to help old engines meet emmisions tests requirements.
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We can get that stuff in the UK. I've used it in a worn gearbox, it is simply brilliant. Had a car that whined fit to bust in 1st and 2nd gears, put 50/50 Lucas and G/box oil in and it was like fitting a new box, and stayed that way too.
I'm not sure you'd want to put it into an engine that wasn't badly worn and it for sure won't improve fuel economy. This is because it is likely to increase viscous drag. You fit thinner weight oils to do that, and thicker to reduce noise and oil consumption. They have a neat little demo device that shows treated oil forming a bead around gears where untreated just wets them.
Worn engines and boxes, great, otherwise I wouldn't bother.
Best performance booster on older engines is the detergent additives that free the rings in the lands, restoring compression and reducing blowby. They really work, seen it done many times. It's used in the UK to help old engines meet emmisions tests requirements.
I was kind of wondering how well it would work in a tranny or rear end also (not that Im gonna put it in them, just curious)
yeah I've seen the demo thingy.

This stuff claims to restore compression and reduce blowby. and it says eliminates dry starts (and the K&N filter has an anti-drainback valve to also help with that).


the engine is definetly worn (158k miles and its 20 years old). its in there now so I'm gonna leave it in and see how I like it.

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Re: Lucas Oil Stabilizer on your manifold is bad

I just bought some lucas grease, seemed like good stuff, it's temp rating was 140º higher than anything else in the store. Very "stringy" when using it. It smells pretty funky too.

On reading the package I learned Lucas Oils is less than 10 miles from my house.



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I just bought some lucas grease, seemed like good stuff, it's temp rating was 140 higher than anything else in the store. Very "stringy" when using it. It smells pretty funky too.

On reading the package I learned Lucas Oils is less than 10 miles from my house.
the oil stabilizer is kind of stringy too (nice yellow color too). I didn't notice if it smelled bad or not, until it started to burn off the manifold. and it smells terrible then

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Re: Lucas Oil Stabilizer on your manifold is bad

Oh, I didn't comment on that.

Don't pour junk like that in a good running engine.



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Re: Lucas Oil Stabilizer on your manifold is bad

"This stuff claims to restore compression and reduce blowby"

If compression is down it is almost always due to the rings sticking in the lands due to carbon deposits (produced from cheap oils/extended drain/plain high mileage). No amount of VI improver is going to significantly change that. The answer is to dissolve the deposits, allowing the rings to spring out and seal against the bore (remember that old engines will have slightly barrel shaped bore requiring free ring pressure to seal). THere are products that are really good at this, particularly the trade only formulations. IMHO, the Lucas is good at maintaining oil pressures in worn engines and reducing whine in worn gears, both box and diff.
Like LTL, I don't see any advantage using it in a good engine/box/diff.



Edit...I just noticed that I've part repeated myself. Sorry, tired and slightly drunk
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