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Vulnerability in IE Graphics Rendering Engine Could Allow Remote Code Execution.

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Re: Vulnerability in IE Graphics Rendering Engine Could Allow Remote Code Execution.

Whaty gapping whole is wide open this time? You know what is funny about Microsofts OS is that it was just approved for an EAL4 under Common Criteria this month. What a joke. It is all political.
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Re: Vulnerability in IE Graphics Rendering Engine Could Allow Remote Code Execution.

People don't think other OS's and browsers have vulnerabilities? MS is being exploited because the hackers are dealing with the most widely used SW packages out there to do their craft. Wouldn't make too much sense for them to go after a market that's 1/1000th the size. If Apple etc was the largest, you'd see the same things happening to them. The hackers etc would target them and I'm 99.9% certain there'd be just as many vulnerabilities found there.
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People don't think other OS's and browsers have vulnerabilities? MS is being exploited because the hackers are dealing with the most widely used SW packages out there to do their craft. Wouldn't make too much sense for them to go after a market that's 1/1000th the size. If Apple etc was the largest, you'd see the same things happening to them. The hackers etc would target them and I'm 99.9% certain there'd be just as many vulnerabilities found there.
Nice guess however the DoD considers BSD the most secure OS out there. While OS X is not pure BSD (thus adding some potential opportunities) it is BSD based. No it is not perfect but it ain't windoz either. Rather than just check vulnerabilities in general check time from discovery until patch (MS has improved in this) and severity of flaw (remember the ability to take over an MS machine remotely) Of course not being a sheeple I am not following the 90%+ into the MS clan and thus biased.

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and I'm 99.9% certain there'd be just as many vulnerabilities found there.
I would disagree with you there. I would guess that 90% of the OS used for security are not using MS as the front door. It is Unix my friend. They might be using windows behind the unix front layer. There is not a product called "trusted windows". There is products called "trusted Solaris, trusted irix, trusted aix......" NSA is even working with a RH kernel called Security Enhanced Linux aka SELinux.
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Nice guess however the DoD considers BSD the most secure OS out there.
But how DoD Windows XP Home machines are online to the internet at any given moment, credit card in hand?

...if you make it easy to use, with the 'cost' of that ease of use being security, its a no-brainer.

BSD itself is less targeted because its harder to use, end of story.
I'm not saying it's vulnerabilites are equal or benign, just that if it was easier to use, and had zillions of consumers using it for online retailing and contact harvesting, you can bet there would be some vulnerabilities in it.

But since it doesen't have that task of being a mainstream-friendly OS, and an insane profit motive engulfing its deployment pattern, they can accomplish what they want. As their stocks are in something else, that serious dorks require for their dutch poop eating porn collection - and that is security.


There now you all have the answer, you're welcome
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Re: Vulnerability in IE Graphics Rendering Engine Could Allow Remote Code Execution.

and yes, without insanity proceedings to follow, "easier to use" is not literal or preverbial...it's ambigual.


btw - Conq thanks for the info on IE, thats what I originally meant to respond to

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But how DoD Windows XP Home machines are online to the internet at any given moment, credit card in hand?
Windows XP Home on a DoD network? I think not. I feel you are mistaken on this.
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BSD itself is less targeted because its harder to use, end of story.
I'm not smart enough to use Windows, so I have to settle with BSD. Its true. I never could get Windows to behave and stop losing all my work. That must make me dumber than dumb.
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Re: Vulnerability in IE Graphics Rendering Engine Could Allow Remote Code Execution.

At least the Windoze people (user,losers, whatever) I know don't live in the OS world like many of the unix people I've worked with over the years. You would think some of them...they'd leave work and enter into their UNIX portal because it's the end all. Serious Geeks that would make Conqsoft look like a Pro wrassler
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Re: Vulnerability in IE Graphics Rendering Engine Could Allow Remote Code Execution.

Fix posted: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sec.../ms06-001.mspx (Also available via Windows Update.)
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Windows XP Home on a DoD network? I think not. I feel you are mistaken on this.
No mistake, that's not what I was saying either.

In hindsight, I'm not even sure what I was trying to say though so .

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I'm smart enough to not use Windows
so why are you quoting my post?

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Re: Vulnerability in IE Graphics Rendering Engine Could Allow Remote Code Execution.

This thread has morphed into a really funny topic

What is secure? Where do you attack a system?

UNIX passwords are one of the biggest holes in an enterprise environment, very little control over password policies and very little control from one box to the next. If I'm a UNIX admin in a large company with say 100 UNIX boxes, how many passwords do I have?
Oh not many we use NIS, please don't start down that hole... Not saying everyone out there but many UNIX/Linux guys really haven't looked at where the biggest problems are. Windows can help folks. They can coexist!
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