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post #1 of 30 Old 01-16-2006, 8:46 AM Thread Starter
 
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Desktop of the month... January 2006?

Need a decent midgrade desktop for home, and thinking about breaking from Dell. Not trying to open a can of worms, but any thoughts on the best price/performance/reliability desktop as of today would be appreciated...

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Re: Desktop of the month... January 2006?

I would stay away from anything proprietary like HP, Compaq, etc. With all of the components integrated into the motherboard they're essentially disposeable. Upgradability is a must. That's the advantage of (most) generic mochines. The name on the box shouldn't really count. Pay more attention to what components it uses.

And then there's this asshole...
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Re: Desktop of the month... January 2006?

I disagree. Most "real" desktops made by Lenovo or HP have 3 year onsite service, a decent upgrade path and excellent warranty. By the time the system requires non-warranty repair, it should be disposable.

Proprietary is misleading as well. Most 3rd tier motherboards are all about integrating most commonly used components on the board just like the big guys, so if the NIC or HBA takes a dump (and you want to replace it), you have the same options in both cases.

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Re: Desktop of the month... January 2006?

I've had good luck with HP's systems. Less exposure to Lenovo desktops, but if they build them like they build their laptops you can't go wrong. E-machines have served me well the few times I've come accrossed them as well. Stay away from Celeron processors.
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Re: Desktop of the month... January 2006?

Abtech maybe things have changed since I last cracked a few computers open but every HP and Compaq I've looked inside was built as a throw-away. I've seen some of their boards where you can't even add RAM and there were no PCI slots.

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Re: Desktop of the month... January 2006?

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Abtech maybe things have changed since I last cracked a few computers open but every HP and Compaq I've looked inside was built as a throw-away. I've seen some of their boards where you can't even add RAM and there were no PCI slots.
Not the case today. My current Lenovo workstation has two 64 bit PCI-X slots and two 32 bit slots, 4 memory slots (one full from the factory) and a VPCI/AGP4 slot for graphics options. It also has 2 gigabit ethernet NICs onboard, 4 USB2 ports and 4 SATA ports along with 2 ATA-X ports. A bit beyond the normal desktop, but most of the current Lenovo & HP "real" business class desktops are quite adaptable.

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Re: Desktop of the month... January 2006?

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Change your caveats I would do one of your caveats but I am far from an average user

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Re: Desktop of the month... January 2006?

There's no such thing as the old proprietary thing any longer. They all use the same standards, they all have some MB integration, and if that MB unit fails you can just add a card.
And at the mid-grade level, they'll all be pretty much the same damned thing under the hood.
The Alienware systems seem to be a good "never heard of them" clone option if not wanting to roll your own.
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Re: Desktop of the month... January 2006?

I second Alienware, and would add Celeron D tech is smokin' good..
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Re: Desktop of the month... January 2006?

I know nothing about computers

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Re: Desktop of the month... January 2006?

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Re: Desktop of the month... January 2006?

Can't do the Smeleron....need to do some CAD apps...

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Re: Desktop of the month... January 2006?

For equivalent money....

3.0 Ghz Pentium 4 630 HT
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I disagree. Most "real" desktops made by Lenovo or HP have 3 year onsite service, a decent upgrade path and excellent warranty. By the time the system requires non-warranty repair, it should be disposable.

Proprietary is misleading as well. Most 3rd tier motherboards are all about integrating most commonly used components on the board just like the big guys, so if the NIC or HBA takes a dump (and you want to replace it), you have the same options in both cases.
We stopped using Dell after one of the computers burned the input on the board for the mouse, just after the one year warranty ended. We now us HP and have had no problems, 2 years more warranty, they even gave us a better deal. FWIW

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Re: Desktop of the month... January 2006?

My last 2 Home computers have been emachines systems. more than enough open slots for upgrades and an extra hard drive and usb ports out the wazoo.. not a single complaint for either of them except that they become obsolete jsut as fast as the rest of them...

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