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post #1 of 23 Old 01-26-2006, 10:21 AM Thread Starter
 
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.40 S&W vs. .357 Sig

Looking at getting a new pistol here soon and am having a hard time choosing between the two. Looking at a Sig 229DAK and will eventually get a barrel for the other after initial purchase, just having troubles picking between the two for the "start". I had my Glock in 40 and was lass than impressed with the round. Not nearly as accurate as I had hoped for. I've heard the .357 sig is a wicked round that's really flat shooting and darn accurate. Anyone have any imput?

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Re: .40 S&W vs. .357 Sig

You probably know most of this...

.40 S&W (Short and Weak?) is cheaper and more available. The .357 Sig blows a big fireball, makes lots of noise, and just looks cool as a bottlenecked cartridge. The ballstics are pretty similar to .357 Mag. The .357 Sig has a sharp, quick recoil compared to the push of a .45. (My GF shoots both, but was more comfortable with the .357Sig, which she likes quite a bit) If I wanted a .40, I'd get the full deal in a 10mm. Especially there in AZ where there are more pistols available chambered in it.

To be honest I don't know much about either round, and haven't shot one other than at an indoor range, so I can't say I noticed a flatter trajectory.

I love the .357Sig, and will have a pistol chambered in it someday. And at the same time I buy it, I'll probably order the .40 barrel "just 'cuz".

Goto your local range, in AZ I'd guess there are plenty of ranges with Sigs and Glocks in .357Sig to rent.



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Re: .40 S&W vs. .357 Sig

Hahaha, Short & Weak, never heard it called that before. I'd also thought about getting it in 9mm. I'm a dead shot with 9mm. It will most likely be used for 3 Gun shoots and the like. Will carry it as well. Man, now I had to throw one more option in there. I hate making choices.

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Re: .40 S&W vs. .357 Sig

The .357 Sig is a 9mm. A really high velocity one.

I think a simple Glock in 9mm is my next pistol purchase.



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Re: .40 S&W vs. .357 Sig

Got my Hornady reloading manual out to check velocities for the hell of it. I was surprised actually.

All comparisons are with the same bullet in 9MM Luger and .357 Sig, also using the fastest load listed, regardless of powder type.

90 Grain bullets
9x19: 1400FPS
.357Sig: 1500FPS

115 Grain bullets
9x19: 1250
.357Sig: 1350

147 Grainers
9x19: 1000
.357Sig: 1150



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Re: .40 S&W vs. .357 Sig

Having own'd a 9mm, a .40 and a .357Sig and now carry a .45, I have this to say... The most accurate round is the round you can shoot and control and be most comfortable with.

I have never shot a round as well as I shoot a .45... The .357Sig stings, its loud, it draws a crowd at the range... Other than that, I wouldn't want to use it in a defensive situation... Most loads, even good speer gold dot loads, flash during the day and are incredibly bright at night, they go faster than the speed of sound, so there is the sonic boom to deal with... So your hearing and your sight will suffer at night should it ever be used.

Thats my two cents. For a range gun, its damn fun to play with and is definitly a neat little round to shoot and reload for...
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Re: .40 S&W vs. .357 Sig

I'll never own another Glock. Just don't like the grip angle. Feels really wierd to me. I'm stuck on my 1911's and Sigs for now. Yeah I know it's a REALLY, REALLY high velocity 9. I may just get that for the sheer entertainment factor. However I have a Tactical Pistol school I'm going to in a few months and was hoping to get something that wasn't so pricey for ammo, they require 1000 rounds to be brought. I'd use one of my current pistols but none of them have light rails(a requirement for the school).

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Re: .40 S&W vs. .357 Sig

my advice too, don't base the .40 off your experience with it in a glock. Your experience with it in a sig or a HK may be completely different.

Having said that. Go .45ACP!
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Re: .40 S&W vs. .357 Sig

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Just don't like the grip angle. Feels really wierd to me. I'm stuck on my 1911's and Sigs for now.
I hear that. The Glock isn't primarily for me. My experiment with a Beretta in 9mm (the small grip Vertec) isn't working out so hot for the better half. Damn thing is too big, with too many stiff, sharp levers all over it for her.

But that said, though a Glock has no appeal either in looks or feel to me, I do shoot them as well as anything.




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Having said that. Go .45ACP!
Here's my favorite .45 of the week.

It's got a rail.



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Re: .40 S&W vs. .357 Sig

I'll never shoot any of my guns as well as they are truely capable of. I sure give it a good run though.

I love 45acp and also thought about the P220, but I wanted something a bit smaller. The P245 had an odd feel in my hands so that only leaves me with the P220 in the SIg line. I could just buy another 1911...oh geez, there goes my tax returns.

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Re: .40 S&W vs. .357 Sig

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OOOOOH the Desert Warrior, such a nice pistol. Stop with the 45 crap, you two are gonna make me buy another 1911.............

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Re: .40 S&W vs. .357 Sig

My current 1911 flavor of the week is this.......
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Re: .40 S&W vs. .357 Sig

Between the 40 and the 357sig, I say go for the 40, reason being, as a defensive round, more air in, more blood out... The .45 is even mo-betta in that light.

Here is my next pistol... Hopefully within the next couple of months.
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Re: .40 S&W vs. .357 Sig

Mmmmm TRP Operator, another nice choice. The only thing I don't like is the full length dust cover/rail. They feel REALLY good in the hand though.

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