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Somebody must have a processing plant or distribution center in their district.
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I couldn't get past that guy in the middle of the picture who's name is Letourneau. Bet he wishes he could change it! (i.e. Mary Kay Letourneau - the teacher who went to jail for "being with" her student)
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Re: 79% say YES! ....okay lets vote NAY!

We're close to a ban in my city, I can hardly wait.

Goddamned smokers. Like the guy in the apartment above my ground-level condo who smokes on his patio and tosses the cigarette butts on my lawn. Haven't caught him doing it yet, but when I do....

And then there's this asshole...
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Re: 79% say YES! ....okay lets vote NAY!

How about a compromise? You can smoke, but you have to wear a helmet.

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Re: 79% say YES! ....okay lets vote NAY!

"live free and die smoking"

I actually don't mind the fact that this didn't pass. Most of the places we eat out at don't allow smoking anyway...or if they do, the area is well removed from the non-smoking areas.

Let the restaurant owners decide what they want to do. Smoking is not illegal and until it is, it is not the Govt's place to say where you can and can not do it.

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They are trying to pass this law in NJ(supposed to go into affect on the 15th,but still in court agruments) Im pretty sure its going to get thrown out though, because it doesnt include the casinos in AC and the bar owners are pissed about that.
I say pass the law why should I have to suffer if another person wants to ruin their lungs.
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"live free and die smoking"

I actually don't mind the fact that this didn't pass. Most of the places we eat out at don't allow smoking anyway...or if they do, the area is well removed from the non-smoking areas.

Let the restaurant owners decide what they want to do. Smoking is not illegal and until it is, it is not the Govt's place to say where you can and can not do it.
I'm with you on this. I do feel bad for the workers, but they chose to work there. I just don't go to restaurants that allow smoking, and there are very few here that do.

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... why should I have to suffer if another person wants to ruin their lungs.

And then there's this asshole...
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Re: 79% say YES! ....okay lets vote NAY!

Most of the Towns/Cities that I have lived in over the last few years have changed to None smoking or they have a fish bowl for them. Being a nonsmoker I like this, and think is is fair for the smokers as well.

It was a shock when I moved to Alberta and went out to a few places in Calgary and there was still smoking. I was amazed how quickly I got use to drinking in a non smoking environment and how much it bothered me. Before theys tarted removing smoking it was always there and I accepted it as part of the Bar Experience.
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Let the restaurant owners decide what they want to do. Smoking is not illegal and until it is, it is not the Govt's place to say where you can and can not do it.
Just another freedom being taken away. And I say this as a non-smoker.
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Typical NH bullshit bickering.

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Let the restaurant owners decide what they want to do. Smoking is not illegal and until it is, it is not the Govt's place to say where you can and can not do it.
That doesn't hold. It's the governments place to tell you just about anything- their doing so determines its legality. Drinking is not illegal but you're told where it's acceptable (and how much). Being naked isn't illegal, but there are places it's deemed inappropriate. Carrying a gun isn't illegal (especially in NH) as long as you follow the rules. These things I've listed don't have any measurable side-effects or cause harm to a person in your vicinity- smoking does.

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I'm with you on this. I do feel bad for the workers, but they chose to work there. I just don't go to restaurants that allow smoking, and there are very few here that do.
Everyone has a right to work in a safe environment, an amosphere filled with pollutants isn't the safest of places. Not all people can freely "choose" where they work and simply work where they can. Particularly once you start hitting rural areas of that state your opportunities for employment diminish outstandingly. If all the employers in a town that you're qualified to work for impose a smoke-laden environment and you're powerless to relocate you end up paying for your income, ultimately, with your health.

It was refreshing to move to California from NH. I can actually go to restaurants, bars, concerts, pool halls, etc. without the assy reek of nicotene permeating my clothes and covering my body nor attaching itself to my lungs.

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Typical NH bullshit bickering.


That doesn't hold. It's the governments place to tell you just about anything- their doing so determines its legality. Drinking is not illegal but you're told where it's acceptable (and how much). Being naked isn't illegal, but there are places it's deemed inappropriate. Carrying a gun isn't illegal (especially in NH) as long as you follow the rules. These things I've listed don't have any measurable side-effects or cause harm to a person in your vicinity- smoking does.


Everyone has a right to work in a safe environment, an amosphere filled with pollutants isn't the safest of places. Not all people can freely "choose" where they work and simply work where they can. Particularly once you start hitting rural areas of that state your opportunities for employment diminish outstandingly. If all the employers in a town that you're qualified to work for impose a smoke-laden environment and you're powerless to relocate you end up paying for your income, ultimately, with your health.

It was refreshing to move to California from NH. I can actually go to restaurants, bars, concerts, pool halls, etc. without the assy reek of nicotene permeating my clothes and covering my body nor attaching itself to my lungs.
I guess you'll never find work in the motorcycle business or with a racing team. I can guarantee you that the fumes, particulates, odors and carcinogens present in most competition work environments make second hand smoke pale in comparison. I can think of at least five other occupations that require exposure to much more hazardous conditions than those found working in a restaurant that allows smoking.

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I absolutely disagree with you. You want to ban smoking in public places, BAN SMOKING! Period. Yes, it's bad for people. Yes, second hand smoke is bad for people. Nicotine is bad for you. Inhaling superheated gas is bad for you.

Do NOT tell me (if I were a restaurant owner) what I can and can not do (within reason).

If I remember correctly, even Hitler attemped to ban smoking and for somebody like that to say it's bad it must really be bad, right? Don't misunderstand me, I don't like cigarettes and I think smoking them is just about one of the dumbest things you can do to yourself but you either make it illegal or leave it alone.

Live free or die....I think smoking in a restaurant falls into that statement somewhere.

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I guess you'll never find work in the motorcycle business or with a racing team. I can guarantee you that the fumes, particulates, odors and carcinogens present in most competition work environments make second hand smoke pale in comparison. I can think of at least five other occupations that require exposure to much more hazardous conditions than those found working in a restaurant that allows smoking.
I work with carcinogens, mutagens, and zoonotic diseases.

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