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ENT specialists and/frequent flyers /anyone with ruptured eardrums/bad news lovers.

So I have a weird allergy symptom like cold thing, some mild coughing, little congestion but nothing too crazy. Fine no big deal.
I should also add I have had ear problems all my life, had tubes in couple times, all sorts of joy/surgeries like that.

Well I flew about 6 hours today, and didnt really think I'd be that bad - wrong. First flight so so, second flight my ears were killing me going up and took forever to adjust, and landing they were pounding. I felt like I couldnt hear anything for at least an hour.

So its like 5 hours later, things are so so with left ear, but right ear seems to have gotten worse, all I can hear is my pulse, breathing, etc. out of it. It doesen't seem to like me too much right now. Admittedly I did harass it earlier when it wasnt popping on the plane, I tried every little folding trick I could to no avail.

Now Im just wondering if I should be attributing this to the plane journey and just sleeping and trying to relax, or if I should be checking out an ER. It's good to know Im alive but I dont need this kind of narrative.

The last time something like this occured was after I was windsurfing and clapped the water hard with my ear, ended up having to get surgery then


Guess Im looking for someone to say 'this happens to me alll the time' or 'try this' so that I dont need to plan on extending my stay in town, heh..one can only hope

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Re: Advice needed - ent specialists and/or frequent flyers plz check in.

I think you got the bird flu.
We are all gonna die of it, you know. Well, that or global warming.
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Re: Advice needed - ent specialists and/or frequent flyers plz check in.

You need to clear your ears. Have you tried plugging your nose and blowing? If you do this, make sure you're sitting down, it can send you into the spins for a few seconds sometimes. Also, I don't remember what it's called, but there's a way to mimic what you do when you yawn to clear your ears too.

I had it happen incredibly bad once, not long after a root canal. I was in tears as the plane landed, a couple people actually asked if I was OK. I went to the dentist as I was flying again soon, and he just recommended taking some decongestant.



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Re: Advice needed - ent specialists and/or frequent flyers plz check in.

Difference in pressure between inside your ear and the outside must be adjusted. Try what LTL said but don't over do it as it may cause more harm than benefit. If pain persist go to the doctor as soon as possible as you might have damaged your ear drum. If you have cracked it, you could get an infection of the inner ear which is serious.
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Re: Advice needed - ent specialists and/or frequent flyers plz check in.

I had the same thing happen to me on a flight. I went to the doctor and it turned out to be an ear infection. You might want to get it checked.
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Re: Advice needed - ent specialists and/or frequent flyers plz check in.

A few years ago I flew with a bad cold and like LTL said I was also in tears by the time we landed. One ear hurt for a few days after that, if it doesn't get better I would get it checked out.

This won't help you this time but in the future if you have to fly when congested go to a drugstore and pick up a product called EarPlanes, they will be with other types of earplugs. They are soft plastic earplugs with a paper filter in them, they regulate the pressure in your ears when landing, just put them before they start to descend, they work awesome.
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Re: Advice needed - ent specialists and/or frequent flyers plz check in.

I've looked at those, good to hear they work. Next time I'm at Rite Aid I'll grab a set and toss them in the pack for emergencies.

I've actually had foamies seal tight enough that when I pulled them out at cruising altitude they "popped".



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You need to clear your ears. Have you tried plugging your nose and blowing? If you do this, make sure you're sitting down, it can send you into the spins for a few seconds sometimes. Also, I don't remember what it's called, but there's a way to mimic what you do when you yawn to clear your ears too.
Valsalva. I can usually clear even a severe clog with a couple successive forced yawns. Here's some other stuff I found while digging for your info:


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* wriggling the jaw.
* wriggling the jaw as you exhale/inhale.
* swallowing - the initial act of swallowing today automatically opens my eustachians, there seems to be some correlation between the eustachian muscles and your swallowing muscles. Or, perhaps, testing it yet again, it's a matter of tightening the muscles UNDER my chin immediately above my Adams Apple. At least in my case. They're the ones that lock your jaw in place, open and close it, move it left to right.
* swallowing as you exhale/inhale.
* use the Valsalva and then try to keep the eustachians open, using any of the above methods, after you have released Valsalve pressure. All of the above can allow (some of) you to achieve the desired effect at ambient pressure. There is no need, indeed you shouldn't try it, at pressure until you already understand that you can do this, never mind how limited the fashion of how you can do it. You should also realise that many will never be able to achieve this because of insufficiently powerful, if that's the word, muscles, but that the benefits far outweigh giving up on the technique too early. Do persevere, once you achieve that initial, rather dramatic in most cases that I have witnessed, voluntary opening things get better/easier quite quickly.
I have a hard time with even a small stuffy nose on commercial flights so I usually take a sudafed about 30 minutes prior to take off just to be on the safe side.

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Re: Advice needed - ent specialists and/or frequent flyers plz check in.

Good advice y'all thanks

I made some water for hot tea and put a facecloth in it, then pressed it against my ear and laid down for a bit. It felt a little better and at least made me sleep-capable sometime later.

I woke 3 hours later and did not notice any ill effects
I was sure I had ruptured my eardrum last night and was freaking out bigtime thinking about the fun of surgical insturments in my ear again.

I am checking out all the links posted when I get back to the hotel, and I fly again in the am, I saw those earplanes things but didnt give them any chance of working. Will have to check them out, thanks

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Re: Advice needed - ent specialists and/or frequent flyers plz check in.

I know it'll be too late when you read this but a slightly different method is:

-tilt your head away from the ear that is clogged so it's pointing up
-reach over your head with the opposite arm and pull up and back slightly on clogged ear
-then swallow, yawn or valsalva.

Sounds complicated as I write it but it's really easy.

If your right ear is clogged, tilt you head to the left as far as you can (right ear up), reach over with your left hand and pull your earlobe up and back slightly, then yawn, swallow or valsalva.
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Re: Advice needed - ent specialists and/or frequent flyers plz check in.

Some followup....I got some earplanes (now) but unfortunately and randomly my ears blocked up last Thursday evening before my Fri. flight out. Ahh, I got the joy of flying back with what now felt like a fully developing ear infection in my right ear. By time I landed I couldn't hear out of either ear and both were in immense pain. Got a scrip for antibiotic but did nothing.

Took the day off and went to the Dr. yesterday and came home with a bunch of scrips. Going on a week now almost that I can hear myself really really well...just can't hear anything else.

So it looks like I had a decent ear infection developing from the first flight, and the second flight in such close proximity sealed the deal.


My advice to anyone moving forward in such a schedule as this:
-1- Earplanes
-2- When you land, get on a good course of Antibiotics, something short term like anzithromicin.
-3- Avoid flying if you can, cause it only makes it worse once infected.


I have discovered reminding people of your condition via saying "huh?" doesen't lend itself to the most friendly way of getting them to remember...after the 6432nd time.

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Just got the word I'm not going anywhere this weekend if this condition is not COMPLETELY gone. Damn...

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is your best bet.


While this isn't "authorized," many people carry this in their flight bags in case of an emergency clog. It's intended more for sinus issues, but might be worth a shot.

Afrin - No Drip Nasal Spray



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Re: Advice needed - ent specialists and/or frequent flyers /anyone with ruptured eardrums

So while waiting for the only residual symptom to clear up (I cant hear ****) , I've been reading a bit more and am starting to wonder if have ruptured both of my eardrums.

Mostly because of the (what would be) intense pain I had, and how it basically 'left' my ears about a day after landing at about 3am. It was immediately followed by blood and some other fun junk.
The kicker is that my hearing is way out there, and I can't hear hardly at all right now...unless its the shower water running off my head or me speaking.

But it feels like I cannot even hear high frequencies, a bit different then the typical 'fluid in the middle ears' sound track.

So that said...anyone here ruptured eardrums before?
I've had mine cut and it didn't sound like this.

Feels like I just plain can't get the volume of whomever/whatever is speaking. Typically the 'water' sound gets volume ok but annunciation is screwy. For me its both.

Sorry for keeping this going...damn my second shift lifestyle

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Yup, gotta be the bird flu.
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