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post #1 of 13 Old 10-07-2003, 8:38 PM Thread Starter
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Re: OS help!

Ok, I just assembled my new PC without a hitch.

That said, we all know something had to give!

During the FORMATTING I divided my 80gig into
1 -10gig, 2-20gig, 1-rest.

That said, I was asked to select a filing system for XP PRO.
It was auto-set on NTFS, I thought about it, but hit OK.
There were 3 other options.
-NTFS QUICK
-FAT32 QUICK
-FAT32

Everything seems to be working fine on C(NTFS) and I am only using C: for MS software.

My question is, I have to still format the other drives, D,E,F.
Do I format FAT32? or NTFS?

Should I re-format everthing and start from scratch?

Will NTFS and FAT32 mix ok?

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Re: OS help!

They'll 'mix' fine, but you really should NTFS all of them, unless you plan on installing some other OS, in which case you'll need to reformat that partition anyways.

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Re: OS help!

Oh, one more thing. You might want to repartition the drive as one single unit (full 80GB). There will come a time when dealing with all the drive letters will be a pain, and adding another HD would be the best way to keep the swap file quick anyways, rather than having it inside a partition on the same drive.

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Is there an advantage to one or the other?
Performance?

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Jay : Is there an advantage to one or the other?
Performance?
Yes there are advantages to NTFS in performance. *It uses 4k cluster sizes, your 20 gig partitions would use 16k clusters with Fat32 leading to disk waste. *NTFS is inherently faster because of its b-tree file lookup. *NTFS is more recoverable, has security, compression and encryption. *Bottom line unless you need FAT32 for a multi-boot system go with NTFS.


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Re: OS help!

Go NTFS and make it as one big HDD.

Or 60Gig/20Gig split. Your 20G can hold back up images for C:

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Re: OS help!

I agree with everyone about the ntfs being the bomb...but.

I now wish that I had done a first small partition where the os lives and leave the majority for my mp3 collection. I think I reinstalled XP 4 times in the past 2 years cus something dint seem right. Life would be easier to just format/reinstall on the OS partition leaving the mp3 collection as is.
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Tombstone : I agree with everyone about the ntfs being the bomb...but.

I now wish that I had done a first small partition where the os lives and leave the majority for my mp3 collection. *I think I reinstalled XP 4 times in the past 2 years cus something dint seem right. *Life would be easier to just format/reinstall on *the OS partition leaving the mp3 collection as is.
Yeah no kidding I just reinstalled XP last weekend because I could seem to fix a lockup problem. It took 6 hours to back up my MP3's over the 11Mbs wlan onto my other computer.
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Re: OS help!

Its done and all is well.
I ended up with 4partitions,
1 10gig for the OS, and MS software.
2 20 gigs(1 for programs, 1 for back-ups & photos.
1 rest. Using FAT32, in case I decide to install RedHat on it,
But is mostly for Music/MP3 only.

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Re: OS help!

You can always convert FAT32 into NTFS later if you wish.

And I know you can't do anything about it now, but I agree with everyone else who says just do one big partition. Back in the old days (DOS) in some cases you *had* to partition (OS limitations) and in some cases it was good to partition for performance. However, most of your modern OS's are built with the expectation that there will be a lot of disk in the box and the OS is better eqiupped to handle it.

By partitioning the only thing you save is seek a little seek time maybe, however, unless you have a truly I/O intensive application (which your home system likely will not) then you won't notice any real benefit of partitioning the drive out. One big partition makes it easy to manage and the hardware (ATA100 I am assuming, disk cache, CPU speeds, etc) will provide more than enough performance for your home needs.

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Re: OS help!

I was under the impression that by isolating parts of the harddrive(partitioning), that it helped in case of catastrophic failures, maybe virus infections, etc.

That is, if everything is on c: and C: fails, even though D, E, F are part of the same physical drive, they are not seen that way, and thus may continue to operate properly or will little effect.

Plus, if I lets say, have a drive just for music, and happen to store 150 cd's worth of MP3's, move them around, delete a lot, won't it help to have an isolated area to have this happen in, rather than a constantly expanding and mixing of data?

Not to mention, shouldn't this help out with fragmentation at all? Some drives will also never change, while others a lot, so won't these partitions help me manage data better?

I am just asking, since you all are giving seemingly good advice, and I wanna also check to make sure that I am not under 'false' ideas of how things work.

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Re: OS help!

I suppose catastrophic is a bit vague. When I think catastophic I think clicks and a completely hosed drive.

With the OS on a seperate partition or even having a 3rd spare partition...you can install a fresh install of xp on the 3rd partition. Reinstall your os on the 1st partition....Use the OS on the 3rd partition to fix the OS on the 1st etc...

Plus when you install XP it asks which partition you want to install on.. I used to hate it when I had to swap another drive in ...do fresh install of an OS then have to search the old drive for all my updated drivers and patches..

You'll be loving that extra partition when that one app install goes very wrong or you suddenly find irremovable spyware all over your pc.
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:iamwithstupid:Ah, thank you. My point!
So I am not completely off-base?!

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