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post #1 of 22 Old 12-31-2003, 4:19 AM Thread Starter
 
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Internet Explorer Virus/spyware

An update that might help others. As posted a few weeks ago, I had some sort of virus on my computer. With help, I finaly got it fixed. For the record I have tried an up to date copy of Norton Antivirus, AdAware, Spybot, Macafees Stinger, and several other virus scanning tools, all failed to find or fix this. If your having similar problems that are driving you crazy, try this. http://www.merijn.org/cwschronicles.html Its a particular evil and deeprooted hijackeing program, the fixes for it are at the bottom of that web page.

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An update that might help others. As posted a few weeks ago, I had some sort of virus on my computer. With help, I finaly got it fixed. For the record I have tried an up to date copy of Norton Antivirus, AdAware, Spybot, Macafees Stinger, and several other virus scanning tools, all failed to find or fix this. If your having similar problems that are driving you crazy, try this. http://www.merijn.org/cwschronicles.html Its a particular evil and deeprooted hijackeing program, the fixes for it are at the bottom of that web page.

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I found the same website. My browser would change my homepage when I restarted the comp so I knew something was wrong. I download and ran CWShredder and it took care of CoolWeb.

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I found the same website. My browser would change my homepage when I restarted the comp so I knew something was wrong. I download and ran CWShredder and it took care of CoolWeb.
Same here, as well as having error popups on restart, and windows shutting down for no reason sometimes.
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Yeah I had that Paid $75 to get it fixed
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Re: Internet Explorer Virus/spyware

I have been trying to run this program and I keep having problems. Now when I try to run it I'm getting a message that says this program may harm my computer. Someone please HELP!!! I keep getting popups that say they have detected a parasite in my system that is tracking everything that I do, how can I get rid of this problem??
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Re: Internet Explorer Virus/spyware

Thrl - I don't have an answer, as G-Force already posted a fix, but this is all more affirmation for me that using an alternative OS, or at least an alternative browser is definitely the way to go. I am posting from a linux box at the moment, but have Mozilla's Firebird as my default browser on all my windows machines. IE is just too easy to exploit it seems. This is what happens when you make the browser an integral part of the OS. Too many hooks to exploit. And too many ways to run code. The more holes you make in your dam, the harder it is to keep the water from leaking.. I truly believe that "user friendly" has been a serious mistake in the computer industry.

Thrl, if you have the minimal skills required, you might find a linux boot disk with the ability to mount your filesystems, and boot with it to clear out the offending files. This of course assumes you can determine which files are the virus. The alternative might be to boot a linux disk, mount your current drives, then a backup drive, copy over the important info, and then fdisk and reinstall your OS.

Everyone needs to go to http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com and make sure their OS is up to date with the latest security patches before you end up in this situation.
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Yup, I'm running Firebird now F You Bill Gates.
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Handy info guys. luckily, not affected yet and I think I'm going to completely dump the use of IE...

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It doesn't have anything to do with IE or any Microsoft product being less secure, it's because hackers write exploits for it. Blame those idiots not Mr Gates.
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It doesn't have anything to do with IE or any Microsoft product being less secure, it's because hackers write exploits for it. Blame those idiots not Mr Gates.
Finally - some sense!
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Finally - some sense!
Well, I have to disagree on this..

Sure it is more popular, and I am not going to get into the whole Bill Gates is taking over the world debate. The fact is this. IE has more code written internally designed to run other types of code. For example, it will allow a webserver to hand the client an OCX, which is basically a block of code. Other "Browsers" do nothing more than browse, with the exception of allowing Java Code. Now Java has a much tighter security system in place, compare to the security system in place in IE. IE's is basically a popup box which asks joe user - "would you like to run this ocx from xxxxx corp?" Then it also gives you a box to blindly trust all further code from xxxxx corp. Now if that isn't handing someone the keys to your house, then I don't know what is. To be fair, Java can do the same, but still maintains certain restrictions on what introduced code can do to a machine.

Look, I use microsoft products at home and at work, but I still maintain that the quest for "User Friendly" has gotten us in the situation we are in today. I run webservers, and still see hits from year old viruses, and it's people who have set up a computer, gotten a cable modem, and don't even realize that they have a web server running on their machine, much less an infected webserver...

Sure, hackers are the ones who write the code, and they should be punished, but when that code is allowed to be run on your pc, who takes the blame? All I am doing by changing browsers is minimizing the ways that people who aren't/shouldn't be allowed to run code on my machine can.
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Is it really more secure, or is it that there aren't that many pissed-off-at-the-world programers hacking it yet?

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Is it really more secure, or is it that there aren't that many pissed-off-at-the-world programers hacking it yet?
Well, here's another advantage. If you would like to get the code out yourself and take a look at it, you can make that determination yourself. Can you do that with IE???
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Re: Internet Explorer Virus/spyware

on a side note, I run spybot search and destroy weekly, if not more, and it cleans out so many things its amazing! I enjoy watching it nail all the crap! I would recommend it to anyone.

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After sitting and thinking about this for a minute, here's a little analogy. We chastise people for buying a high powered bike as their first experience with two wheeled bliss. IE has a lot of added plusses and bonuses that someone who doesn't have the knowledge of what they are doing or clicking can and will get them into trouble. Just like on a sportbike. High power coupled with traffic will get someone in trouble. Will it be you, who knows? I have seen parents allow their kids on the net, and watched the kids just click the "OK" button because it's what they have been told. Now whether or not they were just OK'ing some malicious code is unbeknownst to both the child and parent, yet the parent's allow the kids to play away. When you have your vital information stored on your hard drive, your computer ceases to be a playtoy. A woman here at my job allowed her teenager to install Kazaa on her work provided laptop. Talk about a security risk, especially if she had some of our work information on the machine. That's a fireable offense, and actually with some of the new laws, she could be in more trouble than just a fine if the wrong information got off her laptop.

Being safe with your computer is like wearing gear when riding your bike. It's all a matter of protecting your information, and still being able to do what you want on the network you are connecting yourself to. Now personally, I don't care if more hackers are "attacking" IE and microsoft. What does it matter. Fact is, if you are using it, you are at risk. Just like riding with a muscle shirt and sandals. If you are so loyal to one browser that the risk is acceptable for you, then by all means go ahead... Me, I place my loyalty nowhere in the computer industry. If Firebird starts having security problems, I'll be the first to switch.

I don't want to turn this into a holy war over OS'es and browsers. Point is, just like on our bikes, wear your gear and when you do hit the pavement, hopefully you will be able to walk away..
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