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Big Brother & Adobe

Interesting article about Adobe software and anti-counterfeiting...

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aye, read that the other day... you can open this in imageready then ps and it works ayt.....
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No pity from me either....however I think when there is governmental surveillance within a public entity there should be disclosure.....

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All of these "I'm being oppressed" bitches drive me nuts. This is a good thing...Counterfeit money is bad. Quit yer fricken whining. I'd be willing to bet money that the vast majority of people complaining about it have not even tried to chop a pic of currency for the express purpose of trying to create funny money. Their whining has no purpose other than to hear their own wails of despair.
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Is it survelance (the program tries to send information back regarding the import/scan of a bank note) or interferance (frustrating use)?

My software is all old and cheap and does not seem to have any problem opening / rendering the bill. I've not tried scanning one yet..

Interesting. I've not see what it does to the images but I could see where some graphics arts use would be frustrated by some image blocking or distortion (or whatever it does). I've done a couple of foriegn currency collages for an eCommerce website and buy I'd have been a littl miffed if I was prefented from scaning protions of a note...

Agreed about the incessant whining though.. man.. Hey.. if you don't like what the product does, return it and buy something else!
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"Hey.. if you don't like what the product does, return it and buy something else!"


Amen!
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"Hey.. if you don't like what the product does, return it and buy something else!"
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Agreed, but don't don't you think there should be disclosure of said "feature"?

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Agreed, but don't don't you think there should be disclosure of said "feature"?
I NEVER disclose any "features" on programs I write. I usually just wait around until someone discovers them and then tell them they are bugs in the software.
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I NEVER disclose any "features" on programs I write. I usually just wait around until someone discovers them and then tell them they are bugs in the software.
i didn't think you worked for microsoft
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I NEVER disclose any "features" on programs I write. I usually just wait around until someone discovers them and then tell them they are bugs in the software.
Why build something that needs to be hidden?

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"Hey.. if you don't like what the product does, return it and buy something else!"


Amen!
Except, other products also block scanning of bills.

http://theinquirer.net/?article=13554

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I think the argument here is not that the damn software won't scan in our bills, it's the ever encroaching reach of the government into our lives. Just because you scan in a $20 bill does not make you a criminal. Why does this warrant some type of covert software to detect. It's necessary to get a warrant and have probable cause to do something like get a phone tap. That means you have to be doing something wrong, and they have to have either knowledge of it, or at least enough evidence to suggest it. This to me sets a precedent you don't want...

How about the government secretly installing code in your email or browser that blocks you from visiting certain sites. Who decides what this list of "blocked" sites is to include. What if you found out that the government is installing their code in your email program to "keep you on the straight and narrow." Like that idea?? It starts with seatbelts and helmets where the government is "protecting you". Now they are keeping us safe by not allowing us to do something that may or may not result in criminal activity. Nice of them to pre-judge. Watch Minority Report. Looks like we have our first Pre-Crime unit in operation...

I don't think anyone is bitching that the software won't actually scan in a $20, but what the secret inclusion of government written and monitored code actually means.. If you are hell bent on counterfeiting, and serious about it, you would probably have the time/resources to write your own code, seeing as the new bills have a number of issues that go beyond just the simple scanning and printing.. One last thought for now. Have they released the code? No, and they won't. Do you know exactly what it's doing, or logging, or reporting? Didn't think so. I am sure we all trust this code 100% right...
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I agree with Fig 100%. Just because you scan or manipulate an image of currency, does not make you a criminal. You may want to scan a bill for a school project, or to make a gag (like putting you face on the bill, or whatever. Besides, criminals would either have their own software or would be able to crack the security features anyway.

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I NEVER disclose any "features" on programs I write. I usually just wait around until someone discovers them and then tell them they are bugs in the software.
If someone did that to something I payed for, they'd be in court defending themselves.

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