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post #1 of 24 Old 01-20-2004, 12:43 PM Thread Starter
 
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Watched the film Cold Mountain last night. Pretty impressive, maybe a tad too long for my taste, but a good story, well told and beautifully filmed and acted.

One thing that interested me though was the American accents. Film set in South Carolina.

As you'd expect, I'm no expert on US regional accents but thought that some actors sounded a bit flakey. Lead actor a Brit, lead actress an Aussie, Captain Teague played by Brit Ray Winstone (usually plays London "wide boy" i.e. crook). Renee Zelweger (Texas) seemed little over the top. All made good stabs at the Southern twang, but was it authentic or do Americans pi*s themselves laughing at their pitiful attempts?

I suppose that in the 1860s it was possible that with high levels of immigration from all parts of Europe that accents were very much a mixed bag and maybe regional ones hadn't developed, but I'm curious to find out what your thoughts are.

So, those of you that have seen it, how good were the accents? What did you think of the film?

Film was shot in North and South Carolina, Virginia and in Romania. Wherever, the scenery was truly magnificent. Very beautiful.

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Re: Cold Mountain

I enjoyed that movie, too. Being from CA I can't comment too much on the Southern accents, but I thought they were believable. They weren't distracting to me, anyway. While Zelweger's was a bit over the top, it fit the character. And as you mentioned, the movie was set 140 years ago...who's to say exactly how the accents sounded.
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I agree, good movie, although I gave Renee Z. more credit than you gave her. Wifey was even impressed too. I stayed awake at the show through a long Chick Flick. Nice when you get Brownie points for having a good time.

I remember feeling the same as you did about the accents in this movie as I did when I watched "The Shipping News" and "Rare Birds". I said to meself I said "Self, who in hell was the voice coach in this??" Honest to Gawd, it sounded like a real bad cross between Aussie, Brit and Irish. Kinda takes away from the movie for those of us who hail from there.
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I thoughtr Renee Zelweger was excellent. Loved g=her accent (if authentic!)

Donald Sutherland, a Canadian I think. Were there any Americans in it? Just kidding.

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The News was decent, and yes, the book was better, but it so often is.

Check out Rare Birds too, it's halarious.
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What was the movie with Jude Law where he was a Russian Sniper? The accents in that one bothered me.

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What was the movie with Jude Law where he was a Russian Sniper? The accents in that one bothered me.
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Re: Cold Mountain

Haven't seen Cold Mountain yet, but expect I will when the DVD is released.

Seriously, do you expect Hollywood to be authentic in ways that matter? For some films, perhaps, and maybe for Cold Mountain too, but witness the abominable outrage that is Torque, for example, as an illustration of what can go wrong in the name of "selling the picture". Authentical it ain't.

I'd be more interested to know what you make of contemporary British films set in areas where the accents are pronounced (i.e east London, Liverpool, Glasgow, etc.). Do British actors usually "get it right"? How about American (or Aussie, say) actors and their efforts at fabricating an authentic English accent? How do they measure up?

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And now to veer totally off topic. I can't watch anything longer than a commercial for Forrest Gump, as his dumb ass accent attempting to sound like a dumb ass just grates on every nerve I have..
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I'd be more interested to know what you make of contemporary British films set in areas where the accents are pronounced (i.e east London, Liverpool, Glasgow, etc.). Do British actors usually "get it right"? How about American (or Aussie, say) actors and their efforts at fabricating an authentic English accent? How do they measure up?
I've not seen Torque, so can't comment. However I think that foreign actors do pretty well with accents in British films. Renee Zelweger (again!) did well in Bridget Jones' Diary. Nicloe Kidman (again!) sounded very upper class Brit in The Hours. Can't think of any more. Give me some to comment on please.

Brit actors do get it right, at least nothing sticks in my mind as bad. Although you will notice that Michael Caine never ever attempts an accent other than south London. Even in the classic Get Carter (if you haven't seen it you really should try and get a copy - superb) where he plays a Geordie (Newcastle) crook, he still has his south London accent. Never quite explained away in the story.

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And now to veer totally off topic. I can't watch anything longer than a commercial for Forrest Gump, as his dumb ass accent attempting to sound like a dumb ass just grates on every nerve I have..
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It wasn't a true story you know Thought it a terrible film. Agree about the accent.
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TORQUE??????????

I've only seen the trailer yet and that was quite enough.
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It wasn't a true story you know Thought it a terrible film. Agree about the accent.
Forrest Gump - Of course I knew it wasn't true.. My point was about the absolute horrid accent.. Where did it come across I might have believed it was true?
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Forrest Gump - Of course I knew it wasn't true.. My point was about the absolute horrid accent.. Where did it come across I might have believed it was true?
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Of course I knew that you knew. Just teasing you

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Re: Cold Mountain

Speaking of films with funny accents....anyone seen "Bend It Like Beckham"?

It's kind of a kid flick, but I thought it was pretty good in a weird sort of way.....

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