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post #1 of 44 Old 10-19-2004, 7:35 PM Thread Starter
 
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"Election" by Trial

It sucked last time, and it looks like whoever loses will then fight it out in court again this time. I HATE the new divisiveness in our politics. What happened to admitting defeat, and the country unifying behind one leader? That's always been an important strength to our system.

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I hear you, but I also think that it is to be expected when the margin of victory is smaller than the margin of error inherent in the system....

IMO, the Democrats are in a real crack with this election, and they will do about anything to make it happen....

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If you want to see the real problem check the states that were close that the republicans lost yet no lawsuits, check the tickets and see who the trial lawyers contribute to. This is not a everyone is sueing issue. If legal action is started you need to defend yourself. The big lie is Bush stole the election with lawyers, yet Gore initiated the lawsuits.

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Yeah, I agree with the problem Bake. I just HATE to see lawsuits becoming the status quo for elections...

Sheep, I'm not partisan on this issue. It is my belief neither party will behave well.



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I wonder if we will have eventually have to slide the election date back and just incorporate the litigation into the process.
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I wonder if we will have eventually have to slide the election date back and just incorporate the litigation into the process.
Probably will happen unless a charismatic leader emerges that can break the bonds of the 2-party system...

(That could put the result margin back to a wider gap than the process margin...)

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Probably will happen unless a charismatic leader emerges that can break the bonds of the 2-party system...

(That could put the result margin back to a wider gap than the process margin...)
And then we can all get marks on our foreheads and hands. Can't wait.

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I don't think the litigation is necessary.

Get rid of the electoral college and I think you'd see things go differently, including margin of victory.



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And then we can all get marks on our foreheads and hands. Can't wait.


Ummm, I wasn't referring to the emergence of an Orwellian figure....but rather a viable 3rd party candidate....perhaps Libertarian...

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The libertarians currently are too "pure" meaning they don't violate their ideals. It's too bad really. I think lots of people are interested in a candidate that is:

Pro-choice
pro-environment
for fiscal responsibility
for small government (and the theoretical lower taxes that go with it)
pro-Second Amendment
not a religious whacko....



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And not in the corporate vest pocket...

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Ummm, I wasn't referring to the emergence of an Orwellian figure....but rather a viable 3rd party candidate....perhaps Libertarian...
Ummm, (does this connote an offensive air of self-satisfied superiority in matters of intellect? )

As much as I'd be in favor of it... a Viable third party candidate is an oxymoron nowadays.

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The libertarians currently are too "pure" meaning they don't violate their ideals. It's too bad really. I think lots of people are interested in a candidate that is:

Pro-choice
pro-environment
for fiscal responsibility
for small government (and the theoretical lower taxes that go with it)
pro-Second Amendment
not a religious whacko....
If you're flex on the 2nd ...Rudy Giuliani or Arnold would fit the bill.

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I am VERY unflexible on the second amendment.

Aside from the fact Arnold is not native born, he has not been impressing me much lately.




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