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Everyone should own guns!

At least this guy seems to think so: Pennsylvania town mulls recommending guns for all - Yahoo! News

I want to see his bid for the Presidential election
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When I first heard it, I thought it was terrible.

But it was pointed out to me that this is the "other" side of the Second Amendment, and that the government actually can compel you to own firearms.

Interesting argument.



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Yeah, that is the ticket. Arm everyone. Back in the day of the Wild Wild West people sure were a lot more polite that is for sure.
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It'd make ya think twice before doing something terrible.
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... the government actually can compel you to own firearms.
Isn't there a country or two over in Europe that has some law such as that? Or am I smokin crack?
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Isn't there a country or two over in Europe that has some law such as that? Or am I smokin crack?
Switzerland is one of them I believe
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Re: Everyone should own guns!

Yeah, of course, like Switzerland. But they don't have our Constitution.

The Constitution only guarantees the right of citizens to bear arms, it nowhere says the government cannot force you to bear arms.

Since most of the people on this site are young to middle aged males, we are technically part of the militia, and the government can compel us.

I think if this case ends up in court, and gets passed the municipal law hurdle and on to the actual gun stuff, Brady would be none too pleased with some of the legal issues that would be forced to be examined...



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There was already a town in Georgia or Florida that did this years ago... I will have to google it to find it.
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Anyone know the back story on this? What prompted the legislation? Kind of an odd law. Especially when citizens have the right to own guns if they want to. To me it seems like legislation to actually exclude and possibly expel someone from the town. Gun ownership is assumed to be associated with a certain type of person. And and refusal to own guns is assumed to be associated with another type of person. And the later may not be welcomed in that town.
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Re: Everyone should own guns!

Funny enough, I was having a discussion with a friend of mine (Former Recon Marine) a few summers ago, and he said that he thinks everyone should have a conceal and carry permit. His reasoning being that it would make you think twice before engaging in some sort of crime. If you knew that on average 5 out of the 10 people in that convenience store would be carrying handguns, you'd probably think pretty hard before deciding to rob it versus if you suspected no one had a gun. The entire discussion was not that shortsighted, but it was an interesting one nonetheless.
Now I don't honestly think that every state would enact a CCW permit (neither does he) but I do see his reasoning.


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Haven't a couple states already passed conceal and carry laws? It would seem an interesting and simple analysis to determine if the legislation functions as its proponents have predicted.

luvtolean would enjoy it, since he would be able to continually defend himself from the forces of evil lurking in the slums of Orange County.
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Haven't a couple states already passed conceal and carry laws? It would seem an interesting and simple analysis to determine if the legislation functions as its proponents have predicted.

luvtolean would enjoy it, since he would be able to continually defend himself from the forces of evil lurking in the slums of Orange County.
Yeah, some states have it. I don't know if studying crime in Utah is applicable to crime in a more populated state with more urban areas. What do I know though...


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Re: Everyone should own guns!

CA has a concealed carry law, that is based on your local Sheriff. (Which I assure you is an extremely flawed system)

OC being a center of comparitive logic in the middle of LA (political) morons, they're actually pretty easy to get.

Jaim, I'm curious. What "kind" of people own guns?



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CA has a concealed carry law, that is based on your local Sheriff. (Which I assure you is an extremely flawed system)

OC being a center of comparitive logic in the middle of LA (political) morons, they're actually pretty easy to get.

Jaim, I'm curious. What "kind" of people own guns?
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