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Good read

Agree or not, submited for your approval. I know thw author of the book is wrong...so I don't want to hear it.


FOR THOSE OF YOU ON THE "CONSERVATIVE" SIDE OF THE FENCE, READ THIS AND LEARN TO UNDERSTAND YOUR FEELINGS BETTER THAN EVER. FOR THOSE OF YOU NOT ON THE "CONSERVATIVE" SIDE OF THE FENCE, PLEASE READ AND LEARN A DIFFERENT VIEWPOINT.

Wherever you stand, please take the time to read this; it ought to scare the pants off you!

We know Dick Lamm as the former Governor of Colorado. In that context his thoughts are particularly poignant. Last week there was an immigration overpopulation conference in Washington, DC, filled to capacity by many of America's finest minds and leaders. A brilliant college professor by the name of Victor Hansen Davis talked about his latest book, "Mexifornia," explaining how immigration - both legal and illegal was destroying the entire state of California. He said it would march across the country until it destroyed all vestiges of The American Dream.

Moments later, former Colorado Governor Richard D. Lamm stood up and gave a stunning speech on
how to destroy America
. The audience sat spellbound as he described eight methods for the destruction of the United States. He said, "If you believe that America is too smug, too self-satisfied, too rich, then let's destroy America. It is not that hard to do. No nation in history has survived the ravages of time. Arnold Toynbee observed that all great civilizations rise and fall and that 'An autopsy of history would show that all great nations commit suicide.'"

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Here is how they do it," Lamm said: "First, to destroy America, turn America into a bilingual or multi-lingual and bicultural country." History shows that no nation can survive the tension, conflict, and antagonism of two or more competing languages and cultures. It is a blessing for an individual to be bilingual; however, it is a curse for a society to be bilingual. The historical scholar, Seymour Lipset, put it this way: "The histories of bilingual and bi-cultural societies that do not assimilate are histories of turmoil, tension, and tragedy." Canada, Belgium, Malaysia, and Lebanon all face crises of national existence in which minorities press for autonomy, if not independence. Pakistan and Cyprus have divided. Nigeria suppressed an ethnic rebellion. France faces difficulties with Basques, Bretons, and Corsicans."
Lamm went on: Second, to destroy America, "Invent 'multiculturalism' and encourage immigrants to maintain their culture. Make it an article of belief that all cultures are equal. That there are no cultural differences. Make it an article of faith that the Black and Hispanic dropout rates are due solely to prejudice and discrimination by the majority. Every other explanation is out of bounds.

Third, "We could make the United States a 'Hispanic Quebec' without much effort. The key is to celebrate diversity rather than unity. As Benjamin Schwarz said in the Atlantic Monthly recently: "The apparent success of our own multiethnic and multicultural experiment might have been achieved not by tolerance but by hegemony. Without the dominance that once dictated ethnocentricity and what it meant to be an American, we are left with only tolerance and pluralism to hold us together." Lamm said, "I would encourage all immigrants to keep their own language and culture. I would replace the melting pot metaphor with the salad bowl metaphor. It is important to ensure that we have various cultural subgroups living in America enforcing their differences rather than as Americans, emphasizing their similarities."

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Fourth, I would make our fastest growing demographic group the least educated. I would add a second underclass, unassimilated, undereducated, and antagonistic to our population. I would have this second underclass have a 50% dropout rate from high school."
"My fifth point for destroying America would be to get big foundations and business to give these efforts lots of money. I would invest in ethnic identity, and I would establish the cult of 'Victimology.' I would get all minorities to think that their lack of success was the fault of the majority. I would start a grievance industry blaming all minority failure on the majority population."

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My sixth plan for America's downfall would include dual citizenship, and promote divided loyalties. I would celebrate diversity over unity. I would stress differences rather than similarities. Diverse people worldwide are mostly engaged in hating each other - that is, when they are not killing each other. A diverse, peaceful, or stable society is against most historical precedent. People undervalue the unity it takes to keep a nation together. Look at the ancient Greeks. The Greeks believed that they belonged to the same race; they possessed a common Language and literature; and they worshipped the same gods. All Greece took part in the Olympic games. A common enemy, Persia, threatened their liberty. Yet all these bonds were not strong enough to overcome two factors: local patriotism and geographical conditions that nurtured political divisions. Greece fell. "E. Pluribus Unum" --From many, one. In that historical reality, if we put the emphasis on the 'pluribus' instead of the 'Unum,' we will balkanize America as surely as Kosovo."

"Next to last(
seventh), I would place all subjects off limits; make it taboo to talk about anything against the cult of 'diversity.' I would find a word similar to 'heretic' in the 16th century - that stopped discussion and paralyzed thinking. Words like 'racist' or 'xenophobe' halt discussion and debate. Having made America a bilingual/bicultural country, having established multi-culturism, having the large foundations fund the doctrine of 'Victimology,' I would next make it impossible to enforce our immigration laws. I would develop a mantra: That because immigration has been good for America, it must always be good. I would make every individual immigrant symmetric and ignore the cumulative impact of millions of them."

In the last minute of his speech, Governor Lamm wiped his brow. Profound silence followed. Finally he said,. "
Lastly, I would censor Victor Hanson Davis's book "Mexifornia." His book is dangerous. It exposes the plan to destroy America. If you feel America deserves to be destroyed, don't read that book."

There was no applause. A chilling fear quietly rose like an ominous cloud above every attendee at the conference. Every American in that room knew that everything Lamm enumerated was proceeding methodically, quietly, darkly, yet pervasively across the United States today. Discussion is being suppressed. Over 100 languages are ripping the foundation of our educational system and national cohesiveness. Even barbaric cultures that practice female genital mutilation are growing as we celebrate 'diversity.' American jobs are vanishing into the Third World as corporations create a Third World in America - take note of California and other states - to date, ten million illegal aliens and growing fast. It is reminiscent of George Orwell's book "1984." In that story, three slogans are engraved in the Ministry of Truth building: "War is peace," "Freedom is slavery," and "Ignorance is strength."

Governor Lamm walked back to his seat. It dawned on everyone at the conference that our nation and the future of this great democracy are deeply in trouble and worsening fast. If we don't get this immigration monster stopped within three years, it will rage like a California wildfire and destroy everything in its path especially The American Dream.
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Re: Good read

I don't understand the logic:

If the country was founded and established by imigrants, exclusively by those we might term illegal today, and central to coming here was to grow, prosper, and do better for the family, how is it that now, it is no longer the land where people can come and do better? if it is a language thing, make some language the "official" language...Or, require some degree of assimilation. Don't sit there with the impotence of most Americans and say this is a bad situation...

The "cultural conflict" alluded to is absolute bullshit. Switzerland: Trilingual, and bi-cultural. Belgium: Bi-lingual and bi-cultural. Luxembourg: Quadra-lingual, and tri-cultural...No massive cultural war, no major conflicts, etc.

Lamm is a putz, and nobody with a mind is going to take him seriously. If they do, they are dumbasses...
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Re: Good read

Okay, first I happen to agree with the Democrat Lamb, second, even though all of those countries are multi-lingual, they are by no means multi-cultural. Most of their populations come from a culture that is, in effect, the same(European). Luxembourg has less than 1/2 a million people, Belgium 10 million, and Switzerland less than 7 million, not a whole lot. Funny you didn't mention France, do you remember last year...the month of riots. Do you think that had anything to do with culture differences?
True, unless you are an American Indian, (even than, they may not have been the first to come to North America), we are all immigrants, but our parents, and grandparents were encouraged to embrace their new country, and assimilate into the population, not force their culture, or beliefs on the population, even going as far as to use the legal system to do so.
Here is a thought for you.....instead of leaving your sh** hole country....stay and make it better? Oh yeah....keep your culture too
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Funny you didn't mention France, do you remember last year...the month of riots.
Here is a thought for you.....instead of leaving your sh** hole country....stay and make it better? Oh yeah....keep your culture too
I don't think "Europe" is mono-cultural, but I will grant a bit of similarity across nations. I did live there, and there are significant differences, country to country. I was only criticising the argument that bi-lingual/multi-cultural populations "caused" a culture war. Many things contribute to it, and I am not at all sure the cultural thing is first. I also, in addition to failing to mention France, omitted the Alsatian region, the Basque, and several others.

I lived in El Paso for a while, and it was certainly an eye opener...I agree that folks should assimilate when they come, and if you look historically, all of the ethnicities were either internally or externally encouraged to do just that, except the central and south american latin/native populations. Although I don't mind ethnic enclaves (we have a great chinatown and little italy here in NYC), we should ensure our culture does the very difficult job of honoring the culture of extraction and allowing it to enrich the overarching american culture.
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Re: Good read

I think the 3 year estimate is a bit long. I think we are almost there. We, along with every other first world nation are heading towards a world government and economy. The idea of nations and nationalism are coming to an end. Not much can be done about it either. The sad part is that this country was the beacon of what a government backed by the people can do. Now it is viewed throughout the world as another in a long line of corrupt nations that has lost its soul.
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I think the 3 year estimate is a bit long. I think we are almost there. We, along with every other first world nation are heading towards a world government and economy. The idea of nations and nationalism are coming to an end. Not much can be done about it either. The sad part is that this country was the beacon of what a government backed by the people can do. Now it is viewed throughout the world as another in a long line of corrupt nations that has lost its soul.
I think most of that view is correct, and that is sad. A world gov't would be great, if we all could get along. But as long as mythology keeps us in conflict, the disparity between the rich and poor is so great, and as a species find it so easy to kill eachother, I think we have a reallyh long way to go.
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