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Bush is a Texas Oil Man right?

If memory serves me right oil was @ about $40US a barrell when George W Bush took over the top job. Now it's close to $130US. It does make you wonder.
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Re: Bush is a Texas Oil Man right?

No Cheney is the one with ties to big oil. Bush is much more disconnected from oil. I'm sure he has friends here and there that are tied to it but he's not in nearly as deep as Cheney.
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Peak oil is here. Learn to grow food.
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Re: Bush is a Texas Oil Man right?

Bush is a Texas Baseball owner =P
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Re: Bush is a Texas Oil Man right?

Seems a little suspect doesn't it??? He may not be directly associated with the oil industry, anymore, but has in the past. Maybe a few kickbacks are coming soon to him in Feb. '09???
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Re: Bush is a Texas Oil Man right?

Yeah who knows how the big game is actually played, we can only guess based on the limited information we are fed. You can imagine the guys at the top end of town have all bought and paid for their own tropical Islands somewhere.... Just in case they need to relocate one day.
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If memory serves me right oil was @ about $40US a barrell when George W Bush took over the top job. Now it's close to $130US. It does make you wonder.
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Seems a little suspect doesn't it??? He may not be directly associated with the oil industry, anymore, but has in the past. Maybe a few kickbacks are coming soon to him in Feb. '09???
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Yeah who knows how the big game is actually played, we can only guess based on the limited information we are fed. You can imagine the guys at the top end of town have all bought and paid for their own tropical Islands somewhere.... Just in case they need to relocate one day.
All is priced on the open market. It is not like we (just the US) are paying more, it is almost every single person in the world. The real people who are making money off of this, the oil producers; like OPEC.
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Re: Bush is a Texas Oil Man right?

So the war in Iraq has not bumped up the price a little maybe? Turmoil in the Middle East will always bump the prices up.

And the White House has already planned on Vetoing the bill to try and go after OPEC for bumping prices up.
U.S. House passes bill to sue OPEC over oil prices | Reuters

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I agree - OPEC seem very much like a bunch of crooks running extortion. Only recently Bush requested an increase in daily production which more or less got laughed at.
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So the war in Iraq has not bumped up the price a little maybe? Turmoil in the Middle East will always bump the prices up.

And the White House has already planned on Vetoing the bill to try and go after OPEC for bumping prices up.
U.S. House passes bill to sue OPEC over oil prices | Reuters
And the US has no jurisdiction outside of the US. The best they could do is sue them, get a judgement and if any of the members of OPEC stepped one foot in the US, they could be arrested. That bill is nothing more than a dog and pony show put on by the democraps.
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And the US has no jurisdiction outside of the US. The best they could do is sue them, get a judgement and if any of the members of OPEC stepped one foot in the US, they could be arrested. That bill is nothing more than a dog and pony show put on by the democraps.
Yep, Pelosi tried the same "methods" in California and it didn't do any good there either.
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Re: Bush is a Texas Oil Man right?

We shake our fists and tell opec we are serious about increasing oil production, yet we wont explore drill or build refineries here in the US.

What kinda message is that sending about our seriousness?

We consider your countries ecosystem to be less important than yours.

What happens if the same brand of politically driven eco terrorism and hostage holding of resources that plague our country suddenly become de facto in the arab world?

Why are we using ethanol? If we are going to subsidize renewable fuels bio-diesel makes more sense, instead of mandating ethanol production kill the production of gasoline engines. Get waste vegetable oil recycling mandated just like lead recycling, 98% of car batteries which is the largest lead consumer in the US come from recycled lead. And nothing smells better than french fry exhaust. Plus biodiesal can be made from virgin veg oil stocks as well.

Mandate re-refining of waste motor oil, no need to keep refining crude for engine oil just recycle what we have.

These are steps we should have been taking 10 years ago, our dependance on foreign oil is apalling.

We used to have a great agricultural base in this country that has fallen to pieces, the entitlement mentallity that broke out amongst baby boomers and spread to GenX and that is corrupting and growing amongst generation Y is one of the largest issues we have.

No one wants to work hard and many don't know how to work hard.

Personally if I were going to get into farming I would have an eye towards corn oil production and building a bio-diesel refinery.

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Re: Bush is a Texas Oil Man right?

We do drill here in the US. We do have refineries in the US; that is where virtually all of our fuel comes from. When one of the refineries is offline we buy elsewhere. Arizona will have a refinery that will create about 50% of their fuel needs. There is also an ethanol refinery east of the Mississippi that should be open in the next year or two. So you are way off base here.

Lastly, forget corn based fuel, it is waste. Try switchgrass, it can made into fuel easier and provide better fuel that E85 that we get from corn.

What we need is to get more solar power and to have incentive for companies to install covered parking for electric vehicles only. When at work, you plug it in and the sun charges it. More nuclear power is also the answer.

We also need to get hydrogen out there more. Get them in the hands of the people.

Some will still use LP or LNG for fuel, like city buses and such.

Then we need to plant plenty of switchgrass and get rid of the corn subsidy. We need to open relations with Cuba, assist them in the drilling in the ocean close to Cuba. We have too much to lose if there is a spill. We should also get a percentage of the oil at market rate. We should also buy sugarcane from them and turn that into a fuel or to use as a natural sweetener instead of corn.
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Re: Bush is a Texas Oil Man right?

Ahhhhh relations with cuba theres a novel idea. I just want cigars though.

We haven't built a new refinery in the US in over 20 years. Many refiners are running at over 100% capacity now.

Ethanol even from switchgrass is still less efficent than bio diesel, ethanol is a crap mandate and a knee jerk reaction to the problem.

Diesels are less polluting and last longer than gasoline engines as well as being more fuel efficient.
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Re: Bush is a Texas Oil Man right?

Most of your (US) oil comes from Canada not the middle east. Crude oil from the tar sands in Alberta is a large portion of what is sent south to your refineries.

We are one of the largest oil exporters and I fill up at $1.30 to $1.40 a litre for premium which should be about $5- $5.30 per gallon, they say by summer regular will be at $1.40 -$1.50 so add about anothe .20 per litre and thats my price for fill up on the bike (18 litre tank). A big chunk of our price is tax that the government won't lower.

The whole industry is corrupt crooks who use any excuse to raise prices and both our governments are full of corrupt politicians who cash in on it.
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