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EVS RC2 neck collar

Anyone using one of these? http://www.cyclegear.com/spgm.cfm?L1...EVS_RC2-A-BK_G . I just ordered one today in hopes it will come in time for my race this weekend. Its more for protecting my collarbone that I recently broke in case I go down again....but after the recent unfortunate death of another racer in CMRA it seems to be a good idea to wear one.
So does anyone wear one or plan to?
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Re: EVS RC2 neck collar

Let us know what you think.

I was looking pretty hard at those recently.

I notice lots of young kids in motocross are wearing them now. Back when I was in high school a friend was killed with a simple over the bars crash into sand that broke his neck...fear of that never completely left me.



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Re: EVS RC2 neck collar

Im kinda anxious to get it for a couple reasons. One is just a little more peace of mind. The second is an idea I saw last year. I saw a fellow take a small towel out of an ice chest and place it around his neck under his leathers before hitting the track in the endurance race. It was obviously an attempt to stay cool during his hour long stint on the bike. Im curious if this collar would have a significant cooling properties if placed in cold water prior to going on the track.
There is a discussion on the CMRAracing.com site about the collar. Kinda indirect as its in a thread about a racer missing the remainder of the season with a back injury. Some of the guys have them already and like them.
I value my mobility so Im gonna wear one.
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Re: EVS RC2 neck collar

I think it will help support your neck in a bad crash, especialy rotating to the rear. But I doubt it will do much for your collarbones, is may act as somewhat of a cushion, but filling the gap between your helmet and collarbone is just going to put pressure on it sooner if you head is really thrust forward. The collarbones are so fragile (I've heard 7 pounds of pressure on a small area will do it, not sure about that) i doubt there is much you can do to save them in a bad crash. Luckaly the are expendable and not real structuraly important. Saving your spinal cord would outweigh any additional threat to your collarbones. I've worn them before in racing gocarts...they seeme really restrictive, I am not sure how usable they would be on a sportbike where you often have your head turned to full lock. I've done the same injury as you so I feel your pain

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Re: EVS RC2 neck collar

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I've worn them before in racing gocarts...they seeme really restrictive, I am not sure how usable they would be on a sportbike where you often have your head turned to full lock. I've done the same injury as you so I feel your pain
same here on both counts.

maybe they aren't as thick (although they look to be very similar)

if you can't convince them, confuse them.
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I think it will help support your neck in a bad crash, especialy rotating to the rear. But I doubt it will do much for your collarbones, is may act as somewhat of a cushion, but filling the gap between your helmet and collarbone is just going to put pressure on it sooner if you head is really thrust forward. The collarbones are so fragile (I've heard 7 pounds of pressure on a small area will do it, not sure about that) i doubt there is much you can do to save them in a bad crash. Luckaly the are expendable and not real structuraly important. Saving your spinal cord would outweigh any additional threat to your collarbones. I've worn them before in racing gocarts...they seeme really restrictive, I am not sure how usable they would be on a sportbike where you often have your head turned to full lock. I've done the same injury as you so I feel your pain
Looks like you had a fall straight onto your shoulder like I did. Broke up instead of out. The collar is supposed to protect your neck as well as protect your collarbone from the helmet. Several expressed concern about whether it would be difficult looking up in a tuck behind the windscreen. The guys that wear them say it isnt a factor at all. One said the collar kinda irritated his neck but considering the potential injuries, well........
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...I've heard 7 pounds of pressure on a small area will do it, not sure about that...
That's what I was taught in my martial arts class a couple years ago. Aikido at that time, have since moved on. Had a doc confirm that a small amount of pressure (couldn't confirm exactly 7 pounds of pressure). The force has to be exerted in a particular direction for that small a force to break the bone though.
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same here on both counts.

maybe they aren't as thick (although they look to be very similar)
They arent as thick as you would think. Ive seen a couple at the track already. I'll give y'all a review if it comes in before the weekend.
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That's what I was taught in my martial arts class a couple years ago. Aikido at that time, have since moved on. Had a doc confirm that a small amount of pressure (couldn't confirm exactly 7 pounds of pressure). The force has to be exerted in a particular direction for that small a force to break the bone though.
Yep, me three. 7 pounds, or less than an egg if you hit the ground with your arms extended up.

Broke mine when I was about 5 falling out of bed.

Now when I fall like that...I dislocate my shoulder rather than break the collarbone.



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Re: EVS RC2 neck collar

Just get hinges installed on both collarbones and then it won't make any difference.
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I've done the same injury
Looks a lot like the screws and plate in my left collar bone!
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I have that same one, and wear it while riding my dirtbike. Any extra bit of safety is worth it, IMO.
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I have that same one, and wear it while riding my dirtbike. Any extra bit of safety is worth it, IMO.
Do you think it would work while riding on the track with your street bike or be too restrictive?
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Do you think it would work while riding on the track with your street bike or be too restrictive?
I know without a doubt that it would be too restrictive for me to use on a road course. YMMV
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I know without a doubt that it would be too restrictive for me to use on a road course. YMMV
Wear it on the next episode of American Hot Rod for us so we can get a good feel for it.
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