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post #1 of 32 Old 05-26-2006, 8:01 PM Thread Starter
 
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Arai 1, Street sign 0, Guard rail 0

this is a pretty good testament as to how good those helmets really are (and how much of an idiot that guy is, especially after seeing accident aftermaths firsthand)

http://www.araiamericas.com/news_9.html

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Re: Arai 1, Street sign 0, Guard rail 0

That's one situation where the helmet should have failed. Arai is battling Darwin.
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That's one situation where the helmet should have failed. Arai is battling Darwin.
true. I suppose thats a pretty good battle for us consumers to have Arai on the winning side of.

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yeah, that's what we need is major manufacturer product endorsement of brain dead activity. I'll never buy another ARAI helmet because of their apparent endorsement of this "customer" activity.
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phucking squid.... 140 mph

But nice to know the lid did its job and now he is lecturing on safety.
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yeah, that's what we need is major manufacturer product endorsement of brain dead activity. I'll never buy another ARAI helmet because of their apparent endorsement of this "customer" activity.
Yeah, I don't get why in the hell Arai put that up.

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But nice to know the lid did its job and now he is lecturing on safety.
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I printed out the article for my brother as it will be great marketing dispite the guy being a...
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Please tell me they got hacked...? If not I'll look forward to never buying anything other then Shoei again, Arai just proved to me their complete jackassdom.



I'll bet if he hadn't had his Arai properly fitted, he never would have lived...underscoring how unfortunate it is they stopped selling on the net.

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Re: Arai 1, Street sign 0, Guard rail 0

I guess I'm the only one that sees how we can learn ome good product info from this jackasses stupidity.


woulda been nice if they put a disclaimer stating that they don't condone his activity.

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Re: Arai 1, Street sign 0, Guard rail 0

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Yeah, I don't get why in the hell Arai put that up.
It was posted as a response to the Motoryclist Magazine article that brought into question the shell stiffness issues and load-concentrating impact severities of Snell testing. Soon after that article they posted this story up as an anecdote to the importnace of their belief in those issues or importance, after the info from Harry Hurt and the Cost study were quoted as saying that these types of accidents are rare, and implying that a shell that is too stiff will cause more severe injuries at lower levels of force on flat surfaces, which are more prevalent in the data. The demonstrations in that mag article showed the Arai they tested against a flat surface at lower eenrgy levels transmitted more g-force to the headform, and insinuated that it was more dangerous at those levels fo force. This is a debate within the industry, and the standards, but the perfromance standards all agree that the threshold for brain injury is somewhere between 275G's and 400G's. Wher it gets further complicated by the shell proopery issues is in the duration of those levels, which is typically greater with a stiffer shell. The other question, and the supposed need for a stiffer shell arises from the hemispherical anvil double-impact testing at the level of energy that Snell uses in it's testing protocols.This example by Arai was to show that these impacts can happen, and that a stiff shell and thick enough liner may have saved this guy from injury at impact energies well above those used for those less severe safety standard testing, while still keeping the force levels within that injury threshold.

Hope that made sense, it's not as meaningful of an example without hte context of that Motorcyclist Magazine article information.
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A double impact story...makes perfect sense.

Arai blew it though, they desperately need a disclaimer or something.



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Re: Arai 1, Street sign 0, Guard rail 0

I sent them a polite note through their website asking them to remove it. I doubt it'll do anything, but maybe I'll be surprised.
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Re: Arai 1, Street sign 0, Guard rail 0

I'm glad to know that My Arai will do it's job and them some, but on the other hand I'm glad I dont do 140 mph on the street either........

Arai should really re-think there line of thinking with using this info as a means of advertisement. Maybe thats not there intended purpose, but thats how I take it.

Great, maybe all the new to the sport first time riders can leave the store with an Arai lid to go with there new liter bikes. Now they will have the fastest bikes and the fastest lids. OK ........ I'm done.
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I'm glad to know that My Arai will do it's job and them some, but on the other hand I'm glad I dont do 140 mph on the street either........

Arai should really re-think there line of thinking with using this info as a means of advertisement. Maybe thats not there intended purpose, but thats how I take it.

Great, maybe all the new to the sport first time riders can leave the store with an Arai lid to go with there new liter bikes. Now they will have the fastest bikes and the fastest lids. OK ........ I'm done.
Exactly. As stupid as it sounds, I guarantee this ends up being interpreted by many people to mean that if they buy and wear an ARAI helmet, they can get away with stupid actions relatively unscathed.

Wait till the first spouse/mother etc. uses this post as evidence in their 10 million dollar wrongful death lawsuit against ARAI . . .
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Did they pull it off the site? Doesn't seem to be working for me.
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