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Street tires for racing in the rain?

Hey guys, just curious about what you run in the rain.
Do any of you run street tires by any chance?
I run race DOT's and will eventually be looking for a rain setup.

I figure with street tires being designed to operate at lower temps and having more siping (particularly something like the pilot powers for example), they might do pretty well on a wet track.

Anyone have any experience/knowledge they'd like to share?

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Hey guys, just curious about what you run in the rain.
Do any of you run street tires by any chance?
I run race DOT's and will eventually be looking for a rain setup.

I figure with street tires being designed to operate at lower temps and having more siping (particularly something like the pilot powers for example), they might do pretty well on a wet track.

Anyone have any experience/knowledge they'd like to share?


Personally, I prefer fresh slicks, unless it's _very_ heavy rain.
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Re: Street tires for racing in the rain?

We rarely have really heavy rain. Light rain or just a wet track is the most we see. For when the track is soaked, you're still running slicks?
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We rarely have really heavy rain. Light rain or just a wet track is the most we see. For when the track is soaked, you're still running slicks?

Generally yes. If it really rains hard the race usually gets cancelled for reasons of visibility.
I absolutely love the rain :-)
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Re: Street tires for racing in the rain?

a good dot will work well. if you want something a bit more than a std. dot but dont want to go to full rains, go with something like the road 3's.

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every rain race ive been in has been on full rains, except for one race where i got caught out on slicks. im not a fan of the rain so my opinion will differ from the guy above me!!

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Re: Street tires for racing in the rain?

in portland, the 2 most rainy city in the usa! they don't stop the races because of rain! pretty much everone has race rain tires too!
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Generally yes. If it really rains hard the race usually gets cancelled for reasons of visibility.
I absolutely love the rain :-)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kByT..._YtFQ&index=26
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Generally yes. If it really rains hard the race usually gets cancelled for reasons of visibility.
I absolutely love the rain :-)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kByT..._YtFQ&index=26
in portland we call that a sunny day
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Re: Street tires for racing in the rain?

I raced 5 weekends last yr in the rain....one of them was just above freezing, and a 3 hr endurance race. SOmetimes the rain was so brutal the people watching ran to their cars and got inside with headlights and wipers on just to watch us splash around.

Full rains, period.
I got stuck twice out there on Bridgestone DOT's and was absolutely annhialated by the guys who were quick enough to put their rains on. I managed to beat a couple guys on full slicks, but no dry tire is gonna touch a rain, even on a wet track with no standing water.

That being said, yes a good street tire will work better than a race DOT in the wet.

PS- That vid is cool, and shows some fantastic control..... but I am almost certain the rider on slicks who won, wasn't up against anyone on rains. The traction difference is a world apart

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I raced 5 weekends last yr in the rain....one of them was just above freezing, and a 3 hr endurance race. SOmetimes the rain was so brutal the people watching ran to their cars and got inside with headlights and wipers on just to watch us splash around.

Full rains, period.
I got stuck twice out there on Bridgestone DOT's and was absolutely annhialated by the guys who were quick enough to put their rains on. I managed to beat a couple guys on full slicks, but no dry tire is gonna touch a rain, even on a wet track with no standing water.

That being said, yes a good street tire will work better than a race DOT in the wet.

PS- That vid is cool, and shows some fantastic control..... but I am almost certain the rider on slicks who won, wasn't up against anyone on rains. The traction difference is a world apart

Some were on full wets but most of the others were on Supersports DOT's, I _think_ Steve that I passed at the end was on slicks as well. Pretty sure Gav on the RC51 was on slicks also. I don't run tyre warmers either so the warm up lap has to be run hard.

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Re: Street tires for racing in the rain?

Well hot damn.......that was some extreme traction management my friend!

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Well hot damn.......that was some extreme traction management my friend!

It was fun :-)
On the first lap as we went up over the hill after the Esses a guy on a CBR600 (F2 I think) went full-lock sideways trying to come through on the inside of me :-)

They had been forecasting rain for this coming weekend, but the latest forecasts have pushed the wet weather into next week. Looks like a dry race weekend :-(

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