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Stock Blade 2009 Turned away for being too loud.

Help! I went to Castle Combe for a track day today only to find that my new 2009 blade failed noise levels on scrutinizing. It registered 109db where the track has a limit of 105db.

They are red hot on noise and will turn you away if you are 1db over. Cost me an overnight and a 240 mile round trip and NO TRACK DAY!

Is there any way to reduce the noise from a stock 2009 blade? Measurements are taken at 9750rpm which is long after the exhaust valve has opened. Getting an aftermarket exhaust seems to make matters worse.

Any suggestions?
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Help! I went to Castle Combe for a track day today only to find that my new 2009 blade failed noise levels on scrutinizing. It registered 109db where the track has a limit of 105db.

They are red hot on noise and will turn you away if you are 1db over. Cost me an overnight and a 240 mile round trip and NO TRACK DAY!

Is there any way to reduce the noise from a stock 2009 blade? Measurements are taken at 9750rpm which is long after the exhaust valve has opened. Getting an aftermarket exhaust seems to make matters worse.

Any suggestions?
Good job you don't live in California :-)
Are you sure they're doing it right?
9750RPM is way higher than here. I would've thought somewhere around 5-6000RPM. You sure that isn't for something like a CBR250RR?
Do you have a link to their test requirements?

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Re: Stock Blade 2009 Turned away for being too loud.

Here is the link Castle Combe Circuit - Experiences - Bike Track Days

They test at 75% of the rev range to red line. Glad to see that its not just the blade!
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Re: Stock Blade 2009 Turned away for being too loud.

ouch.. that sucks to go all that way and turned out..
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Re: Stock Blade 2009 Turned away for being too loud.

I guess if they're making up the rule themselves there's not much you can do about it.
Our track testing is 500mm from the muffler outlet at the same height above ground but at 45 degrees to the axis of the muffler. Engine warmed up, in neutral with the revs steady at a calculated point based on engine stroke (roughly 50% of redline). For the 55.1mm stroke of the '09 1000RR that would be 6000RPM. Our limit for Road Racing is 102dB(A).

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Re: Stock Blade 2009 Turned away for being too loud.

Sounds sensible to me. Problem with the stubby exhaust is the valve that opens at 5.5-6K turns it into virtually a straight through pipe and at 9750 that make a real racket.

What I am thinking is if there is a way to stop the valve opening during the noise test and then flick a switch / reconnect a cable afterwards It may get thru. Any ideas if this can be done?
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Sounds sensible to me. Problem with the stubby exhaust is the valve that opens at 5.5-6K turns it into virtually a straight through pipe and at 9750 that make a real racket.

What I am thinking is if there is a way to stop the valve opening during the noise test and then flick a switch / reconnect a cable afterwards It may get thru. Any ideas if this can be done?
I got pinged for noise at Broadford in '92 so I got a big welch plug, drilled a hole through it and pressed it into the muffler outlet. Got me through okay.
I wouldn't suggest trying to cheat through the testing and then removing whatever you've done as that is the sort of crap that ruins it for everybody. Once people start complaining about the noise, the next time you go the limit might be 2dBA lower again...

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Re: Stock Blade 2009 Turned away for being too loud.

Good point. I will be spending the evening in the garage this evening attempting to make some sort of device that I can clamp in place for days like this.

I have some old zausts knocking around so will try to come up with something! If it works I will post the pics here 'cos I sure as hell wont be the only poor sod that gets told to p..s off from Castle Combe!
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Good point. I will be spending the evening in the garage this evening attempting to make some sort of device that I can clamp in place for days like this.

I have some old zausts knocking around so will try to come up with something! If it works I will post the pics here 'cos I sure as hell wont be the only poor sod that gets told to p..s off from Castle Combe!
Aren't there any other circuits you can go to?

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Re: Stock Blade 2009 Turned away for being too loud.

There are but I live miles away from them and Castle Combe is the closest. Next is Donnington (90 miles further) but having checked their website they have a 105dB limit too. :-(
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There are but I live miles away from them and Castle Combe is the closest. Next is Donnington (90 miles further) but having checked their website they have a 105dB limit too. :-(
That sucks then.
Maybe somebody needs to complain to Honda :-)

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That sucks then.
Maybe somebody needs to complain to Honda :-)
I guess the problem is the revs.
You can see that a track might test at higher revs than typical road rules - seeing you will be at higher revs.
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I didn't even think about road testing. Might have to look that up as well now :-)

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Re: Stock Blade 2009 Turned away for being too loud.

I have never been tested for noise at any racetrack in the US, I guess I will consider myself lucky.
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I have never been tested for noise at any racetrack in the US, I guess I will consider myself lucky.
Have you tried California?

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