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post #1 of 15 Old 03-01-2004, 3:44 PM Thread Starter
 
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Sinister Racing is OK!

Just wanted to mention that Clint at Sinister Racing really hooked me up on an exhaust system for the RC. He had a customer deal that fell through on a new TI/Carbon Akro full system, so we worked out a "screaming" deal

I know, it isn't as trick as the Sato, but I needed a full system for what I'm doing with the bike and short of the HRC version of the same system I'm getting (@2800 bucks), it's about as good a match as possible.

Very nice guy and excellent to deal with .

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I know, it isn't a trick as the Sato... .
Well done.
But I don't understand the Sato trick...
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Ah yes, the vagaries of english. "Trick" is a quick way of describing a very nice looking and performing part.



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Ah yes, the vagaries of english. "Trick" is a quick way of describing a very nice looking and performing part.
Which would have been more evident if properly worded...abtech meant to say "AS trick" not "A trick" the first time.
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Which would have been more evident if properly worded...abtech meant to say "AS trick" not "A trick" the first time.
Thus the self deprecating "reason for edit" . . . Hey, I go back and edit posts that are 6 months old when I see that I screwed it up the first time
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Re: Sinister Racing is OK!

So the bottom line is that is's a nice exhaust?

Wouldn't it have been simpler just to state that it's a greate exhaust for us "slang - illiterate" people?
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So the bottom line is that is's a nice exhaust?

Wouldn't it have been simpler just to state that it's a greate exhaust for us "slang - illiterate" people?
Sorry for the confusion. I was trying to avoid another 20 replies from fellow RC51 owners stating that I was making a stupid decision by not buying Sato slip-ons, as current information demonstrates them to be the best (easily available) choice for sheer power. I was looking for a full system for a couple of reasons. The first reason is that I have updated my 2000 RC with a 2003 swingarm which allows a closer fitting exhaust system (both were changed on the 02 and later models) to prevent the system from dragging on the track. To get the "proper" model of Sato, I would have to purchase a stock header system from an 02 or later RC51 and still buy the very expensive Satos. This would make the system cost over 1600.00 for slip-ons.

The second is sheer weight, as the Akro system I purchased weighs 2 pounds less than the combination of the stock headers and the Sato slip-ons. I have the details for the modification to make the new Akro system into the HRC WSB spec (some simple cutting and welding at the 2/1/2 collector junction).

The Sato system is very nice, albeit quite expensive for a pair of exhaust cans with a couple of feet of titanium pipe with a conical expension section. The newest Akros include the conical expansion and the headers are considerably lighter than it's stock Honda counterparts.
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OK, why didn't you consider the Mori full system?
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OK, why didn't you consider the Mori full system?
Because you have them on your bike

Couldn't get the deal on the Mori's that I got on the Akro's and I have already modified them to HRC WSB spec, so they should work just fine . . .
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Re: Sinister Racing is OK!



Are you sure it's not just because you didn't like the Mori rainbow?




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... have already modified them to HRC WSB spec, so they should work just fine . . .
and those exhaust modifications would be?

BTW L2L, the Mori full systems are available in both anodized and plan Ti finish.
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Yep



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and those exhaust modifications would be?

BTW L2L, the Mori full systems are available in both anodized and plan Ti finish.
The HRC mid section of course . . .

BTW, this is not the system tested a year or two ago by several people (which is no longer available), rather a new fab entirely.

Sheeze G-Man, why aren't you signed up for Grattan in June?

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Re: Sinister Racing is OK!

We raced a stock SP2 in the first round or Oz superbike, that made 135 at the wheel mapped with Micron slip ons, and 129 with an Akra full system. I was in the Castrol Honda garage at PI for the rained out year, and I can tell you this. The difference between the two systems (standard and your mod) is 11ty times more than just that. Those systems COST them $20k EACH or more. Funny thing is, that where the Micron cans won't fit on over the Akra lead pipes, they'll fit over the Akra outlet of the muffler.
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We raced a stock SP2 in the first round or Oz superbike, that made 135 at the wheel mapped with Micron slip ons, and 129 with an Akra full system. I was in the Castrol Honda garage at PI for the rained out year, and I can tell you this. The difference between the two systems (standard and your mod) is 11ty times more than just that. Those systems COST them $20k EACH or more. Funny thing is, that where the Micron cans won't fit on over the Akra lead pipes, they'll fit over the Akra outlet of the muffler.
I had a set of the HRC pipes here in the shop (one of the interim versions, as there were at least seven versions of the pipes), and vs the latest EVO system the primary difference was in the mid section where the 2 pipes join and seperate, as well as the curvature leading to this section from the rear cylinder. The OD tapering from the cylinders and the tapering into the cans is identical. The mid section adds approximately 1.5" to the overall length of each pipe. The Honda Canada factory superbikes used Hindle cannisters, so they have a larger outlet on them than the EVOs (as you mentioned in another thread). I am working on having new rear sections made for the Akro cans to match the outlet size.
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