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post #31 of 107 Old 07-06-2011, 12:19 AM
 
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a buddy of mine just got a 08 r6 and he already thinks its too slow for him after 150 mi of riding for the first time. Needless to say i stay away from him when we ride. I had a 07 zx6r for 4yrs and now have a 954rr and to tell u the truth this blade is more snappier in every gear unlike my 6r and i cant even imagine a 07 1000rr after u have only ridden a 250 for 5mo and not to mention you wrecked it!

Thats exactly what I was saying about him jumping from a 250 to a 1k, I learned on a 95zx6r rode that for about a month and it broke down then 2 years later which was last summer I got the 900 and I have had 2 spills and more than a few butt puckering moments.

Most of them were from ill judgement or inexperience and one of the spills was just a stupid hurts moment.... and my bike was running maybe 75% cant really imagine getting this bike in like new condition and starting last year. But I feel I could manage now and I do wish I had a little more on the low end grunt although I dont want to sacrifce acceleration or top end, the bikes revving at like 6-7.5grand on the highway at 70-85 and it burns up alot of gas or maybe its just this being my first bike Ive really rode any amount of time

Maybe all that will change after I get it back together....thinking of raising the compression to....a newer gsxr 750 sounds nice too

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Re: Young inexperienced rider

I don't think the jump is necessarily a problem. I don't believe that a bigger bike is a problem either.

I believe it's all a matter of good training, a show of responsibility, and maturity.
Hell, many folks tell you to learn on a smaller bike and yet I teach with 500cc bikes and learned myself on a big bike.

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Maybe all that will change after I get it back together....thinking of raising the compression to....a newer gsxr 750 sounds nice too
good call mate 750's are the best bikes to have i reckon! but they are a bit pricey here in Australia
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I don't think the jump is necessarily a problem. I don't believe that a bigger bike is a problem either.

I believe it's all a matter of good training, a show of responsibility, and maturity.
Hell, many folks tell you to learn on a smaller bike and yet I teach with 500cc bikes and learned myself on a big bike.
TOTALLY agreed!!!
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I crashed my first 250 (which I bought new) in a big highside within the first weeks of owning it and I went on to crash it many more times while learning to ride hard. At the end of that year I bought a CB1100F which I also crashed several times before moving onto a string of GSXR750's and crashing all of those as well. Crashing is no reason to stop learning to ride. For me riding is about looking for and finding the limits of my abilities so I can improve them.
In Canada we would say,YOU SUCK!!!!!, just kidding dont get your knickers in a knot!!!!---had a few crashed myself over the years, never from having too much bike to handle, just from thinking I was too good, that is why I love this sport, you continually learn from your mistakes or from other peoples----like yours cause you stink
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Hey guys my first ever post on this website.
I am a 19 years old kid with desire to go fast. Had a zxr250 for my first bike. Rode that for about 5 months. Just finished my last year 12 exam, couldn't wait to get home and reward myself with some riding. went too fast around the bend. panicked hit the curb. No major damages.
Lesson: ( don't get too excited when riding. shove up your emotions in ur riding boots :p)

So i just bought an 07 CBR1000RR. I dont want to crash it. I will respect that machine. will always be doing speed limits.
as there are many more experienced riders here, Is there anything i need to know, to ride a 1000cc straight after a 250. in particular the Fireblade.
I would dearly appreciate your advice

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unless you live in Germany and ride on the Autobahn.....you cant have it both ways.

also...what is a zxr250? I guess you were riding a EX250-J or most commonly called a Ninja 250R (if it was a 2008 or above)

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first thing to remember is the 1000rr is over 3x the engine, with a much more snappy clutch, and a far more sensitive throttle. unlike that 250, if you tell it to go, it will go, with or without you! its very easy to get in trouble with them.

5 months on a 250 just isnt enough practice to get on a litre bike in my opinion. even for someone that has been on a 250 for a few seasons, jumping to a 1000 would be absolutely absurd IMO. they are just too different in almost every way. my advise is to put the 1000rr away and get a 600 before getting on that 1000. inexpirence+litre bike = BAD
it is actually 4x the engine....unless he decides to get a 750cc.

but in all seriousness...it is quite a jump from a 250 to a 1000. I had a new 2003 R6 as my first bike, moving up to an Aprilia RSVR Factory, Aprilia Falco and Honda RC51 with no issues/damages in about 40,000 miles of riding, so it can be done. Just be safe and enjoy whatever you ride!!
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also...what is a zxr250? I guess you were riding a EX250-J or most commonly called a Ninja 250R (if it was a 2008 or above)


but in all seriousness...it is quite a jump from a 250 to a 1000. be safe and enjoy whatever you ride!!
Zxr250c is the older models of the new ninja 250R, they have in-line 4 cylinder engine,redlined at 18000 rpm, so had a bit of go in it! i think the stopped making them in late 90's or 2000!

yeah its a big jump! i will b careful. you have a safe ride too
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Zxr250c is the older models of the new ninja 250R, they have in-line 4 cylinder engine,redlined at 18000 rpm, so had a bit of go in it! i think the stopped making them in late 90's or 2000!

yeah its a big jump! i will b careful. you have a safe ride too


The ZXR was built alongside the older EX250 for two completely different markets. All the Japanese manufacturers were producing 250cc inline-four sports bikes during the late eighties and early nineties - the CBR, FZR, GSXR and ZXR.
The EX250 started as the GPZ250R in '86/'87 (brilliant bike to ride) before becoming the GPX250R from '88-'07. The '08- EX250J "Ninja" is a different bike entirely, although the engine has some similarities to the older EX250. In Europe and Asia the EX250J is also injected.

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When someone says they would get bored in a short time on a 600 dosnt know the bike. TBH I think it really speaks volumes, so Im giving up now




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In Canada we would say,YOU SUCK!!!!!, just kidding dont get your knickers in a knot!!!!---had a few crashed myself over the years, never from having too much bike to handle, just from thinking I was too good, that is why I love this sport, you continually learn from your mistakes or from other peoples----like yours cause you stink

Which means you double suck.

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In Canada we would say,YOU SUCK!!!!!, just kidding dont get your knickers in a knot!!!!---had a few crashed myself over the years, never from having too much bike to handle, just from thinking I was too good, that is why I love this sport, you continually learn from your mistakes or from other peoples----like yours cause you stink


I am the example that others should learn from :-)

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250 to a 1k CBR? I'm sorry but if you got excited about riding a 250 and crashed it, your going to get excited with a CBR1K and the out come won't be as settling.
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it is actually 4x the engine....unless he decides to get a 750cc.

but in all seriousness...it is quite a jump from a 250 to a 1000. I had a new 2003 R6 as my first bike, moving up to an Aprilia RSVR Factory, Aprilia Falco and Honda RC51 with no issues/damages in about 40,000 miles of riding, so it can be done. Just be safe and enjoy whatever you ride!!
actually, a stock ninja 50 is only 27 hp... so its more like 6x the engine. when i made that post i was thinking of a buddies race 250r with a built motor... almost 50 hp in that little bugger!!
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actually, a stock ninja 50 is only 27 hp... so its more like 6x the engine. when i made that post i was thinking of a buddies race 250r with a built motor... almost 50 hp in that little bugger!!


Any chance you can get some tips out of him?
I'm building an EX250R engine currently, it's laid out around me on the floor tonight :-)
Doing some research looking to see if there's a four-cylinder head I can cut up to fit it, something with 74mm bore centres :-)
Haven't looked at what I can do to improve the strength and reliability of the bottom end yet so any tips in that direction would be enormously appreciated.

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