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Hey I just bought a 2001 929rr today and noticed a few things with it. It has 28 000km on it but needs a new timing chain ( can hear it when reved a bit ) Now thats low km for a timing chain but the guy before me drove the hell out of it im assuming. So I got the timing chain and its getting replaced soon but I also noticed a flashing red light on the digital display where my km's are displayed.

Now im sure this is a total noob question and I feel like an idiot for asking what it is. I did google it and I noticed some talk about it kind of being like a CEL on a car. So is it a check engine light for a bike?

The bike sat for a while and battery was low so I had it on trickle charge.... could this be the problem?

Anyways thanks for the help...
 

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Does the HISS have a flashing light? Mine never did but I think I've heard others say theirs does.
If it is an error light you need to pull the code it's flashing to determine what is wrong.
Commonly it's the servo motor being disconnected. If the HTEV and flapper are disconnected then the servo motor doesn't affect anything.
 

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Hey, ya Its a flashing red light on the digital display gauge.. sorry I dont know the proper name of it but Im guessing Ill count the flashes like a car CEL and google it I guess. Thanks for your help tho... the bike runs perfectly fine so maybe its nothing.
 

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Does it flash all the time, only when the ignition is on or off, or only when you first turn the ignition on?
 

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Ill check in the morning... I just bought it today and its like 1030 at night now so when i wake up ill start it and see... but i remember when i started the bike it was flashing on and off repeatedly. it was beside a yellow light I think.
 

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I believe the yellow LED is the fuel warning light but the red one on my 954RR dash is infact my HISS (Honda Ignition Security System) LED. Playing around with the buttons on the dash some how you can turn it off, but it should only be flashing when the bike is off.

If a red light starts flashing when you turn the ignition on and goes off when you turn it off, that could be an error code.
 

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Ya the yellow light being the fuel warning light makes sense. Anyways im going to film it and just post it on you tube so you can kinda see what I mean. It will be on in the next few hours. Thanks for the help.
 

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Ok heres the video.

YouTube - 2001 CBR 929rr

One thing I didn't mention is that when I put the bike in gear to drive it back into my house The red light stayed red without flashing or anything.

I hope this video kinda helps out a bit... If you listen carefully you can hear (what i HOPE) is the timing chain. I bought the bike for $3500 CND knowing I had to throw in maybe 500-1000 dollars to get it running great. I have the timing chain so Im guessing labour for that is around 500-600 dollars? And the red light I hope is nothing... It flashed 35...
 

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I actually just looked it up and it says something about the servo motor... Im not sure what that is but im sure when I get the bike tech to put the timing chain in he can sort that out?

The bike was dumped and repaired in the past so maybe that knocked it out of place?
 

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yes its basically a CEL but its called MIL (malfunction indicator light). code 35 is the servo motor. its underneath the front left side of the seat behind the frame. its kind of a golish color and should have a couple of cables attached if you have the stock exhaust headers. try rotating it by hand with the ignition on and engine off until the light goes off. if there aren't any cables attached its probably been disconnected for either a full exhaust system or the servo is shot. typically when you get that code its because the plastic gears inside the servo motor got stripped. you'd need a new servo if thats the case.
 

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Ok thanks... ill buy one if thats the case. I read other posts where people say they just put black tape over the red light to be less annoying... Is it really that important to get replaced? What does it do? There is a carbon fibre exhast on it but I believe its just slip on. Regardless Ill get it replaced!

Did you hear the chain at all when i reved it?
 

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The servo motor opens and closes the flapper in the air box and the valve in the exhaust (in the headers underneath the oil pan). If you still have the stock headers with the valve you should still have all of the cable attached to it so you're gonna want a new motor. if you don't wanna spend that kind of money you could remove the cable and take out the flapper in the airbox and wire the exhaust valve in the full open position. That's what I did on my last 929 when the motor went. I didn't notice any performance dips at any revs but others have said they have at very low revs. If you choose to go that way you can just remove the servo altogether to save a few ounces. I didn't tape the light because it never bothered me. and the light will also indicate other malfunctions so its a good idea to check the codes every so often to make sure another one hasn't popped up.

I didn't really listen so I don't know about the chain and even if I did hear an abnormal sound I wouldn't know if its the cam chain or not.
 

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The first short whine is the fuel pump priming the rail but the sound that you hear after that could be stripped gears in the servo motor.
Disconnect it and see if the noise stops.
Can't say I heard any chain problem.
 

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The first short whine is the fuel pump priming the rail but the sound that you hear after that could be stripped gears in the servo motor.
Disconnect it and see if the noise stops.
Can't say I heard any chain problem.
ok so I just listened to it and I think you might be right. it does sound like the stripped gears trying to turn. put your head down near the seat when you go to hit the kill switch and turn the engine on. if you hear it coming from the seat that's the problem. If I remember correctly the servo will turn when you turn the ignition on and flip teh kill switch to run. If you hear it then than you know its not the timing chain and its the servo. Otherwise the engine sounds good, just like mine.
 

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MMA,

My servo was ripped out long time ago and I have no problems at all with the bike running. Now if I was racing it or something it might be more of a problem, but nothing that you will notice if just bombing around on the Malahat. Sometimes if you still have a servo it might just need to be adjusted a little so the light turns off, might have been dropped and it shifted a bit.
 

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My servo was ripped out long time ago and I have no problems at all with the bike running.
Have you removed the flapper from the airbox?
I would recommend doing so if you have removed the servo as it will restrict breathing at high rpm.
 

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Have you removed the flapper from the airbox?
I would recommend doing so if you have removed the servo as it will restrict breathing at high rpm.
and wiring the exhaust valve in the full open position if you still have it.
 

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Personally, I recommend trying all three positions and determining which you prefer.
 
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