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Savaas, I will have to give that a try, but from memory I would say my calipers do not get hot If i don't use the brakes. Have you tried to lift the front wheel and give it a spin by hand? you will always have a minimal amount of drag, but if the wheel stops spinning within half a turn or so, you have an issue. I will let you know tomorrow evening if my calipers get warm
 

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Hi everybody,
here I give my feedback regarding the problem of the ABS, where I had the issue that after about half an hour of driving, with occasional use of brakes, at some point the brakes would do the following: After pulling the lever, the lever would come all the way to the handlebar (so, for a second I had no brake at all, which was very scary), and I had to let the lever back and re-apply it in order to have the brakes back. From that time on, the brakes would function as non-ABS, and the ABS light would flash on the monitor. When the brakes would cool down, the problem would get solved, until the time the bike and the brakes would get warm again and the problem was re-appearing. I could make the problem appear any time I wanted (just used the brakes heavily for a while, and the ABS flashing would appear).

So, after getting fed up with this problem, I followed the advices of Sswiss3000 and of Barry (thank you guys!!!!) that the full bleeding would solve the problem, and used the protocol of Sswiss3000 (!!!). I also put a thermal insulation on the power unit thermal shield and around the pipe that is behind the manifold (as proposed by the experts mentioned above). So, after many days of work (as I am totally inexperienced and this was the first time I did all this), yesterday I went out for a test ride. The temperature in Greece is quite high these days (36 degrees), so, it is the best time to challenge the system. And the miracle happened. The problem did not appear again!!! I drove for 5 hours, in the heat, with heavy use of the brakes, braking hard every 2-3 minutes, from speeding to stop. No problem at all!!!! My goodness. I couldn't believe it, since, before doing the bleeding, the problem would come up at every single ride. And now, after the full bleeding, the problem is solved. So, I encourage everybody that faces the same issue, to go for the full bleeding.

Million thanks to Sswiss3000 and to Barry.
See attached pictures showing the insulations (it may help to delay the time for the next required bleeding).
Cheers,
Savvas
 

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All I would say is I admire your determination to bleed this and then the follow up work.

I had a 2010 ABS that gave 2 years of hell, from the flat battery/ECU issue right upto multiple total brake failures at high speed, just about every ABS issue known on this model was evident on my bike, dealer tried really hard to fix the thing, before I cracked and decided to trade it for a 2014 non ABS before it killed me.
 

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Kenthammer, Sorry to hear the issues you and many others have had. As you can see below, I own two identical 2009 CBR1000RAs and both of them work perfectly. As long as I perform the full brake bleed in the spring before I start to ride them (or at least before the weather gets really hot). As for the oil consumption issue, I would say mine drink about 200 to 300 ml every 3000 miles (4800km). No problem for me. They now have 23 and 35K miles on them respectively.

As for the ABS system, it does present a bit more maintenance challenges than a non ABS bike, but I would never buy a bike (for street use) again without at least ABS. Before these bikes I always rode non ABS bikes, but it's nice to have that little safety net, just in case shit ever goes wrong. In a normal day of riding, I don't even feel that the bikes have ABS or linked brakes.

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So, after getting fed up with this problem, I followed the advices of Sswiss3000 and of Barry (thank you guys!!!!) that the full bleeding would solve the problem, and used the protocol of Sswiss3000 (!!!). I also put a thermal insulation on the power unit thermal shield and around the pipe that is behind the manifold (as proposed by the experts mentioned above).
Savaas C, I will be ceramic coating my headers next week or so. I found a place that will do it for me in satin black for about $150. That should reduce the heat radiating from the headers a little also.
 

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Sswiss, thank you for this info. This is a great idea. Besides reducing the radiated heat, it will also protect the headers from oxidation. I have plated mine (Nickel and chrom), but I am afraid that they will not last very long. Ceramic coating is the best treatment, which I also considered, but thought not to alter the metal color. Below I send you pictures before and after the plating.
 

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damn, those look great. But as you stated, I would also be afraid that they discolor with the heat. Let me know how it works out for you after a few heat cycles.
 

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With regard to the heat issue transferred from the headpipes to the front power unit of the ABS system, I have noticed that this issue is not restricted to the front system. In my bike, the muffler (stock exhaust) transmits a lot of heat to the rear master cylinder, to the swingarm and to the rear brake caliper, which could also cause a reduction of the lifetime of the brake fluid in the rear system. I would say that they are as hot as around 50 degrees celsius (I can touch them, but it is not comfortable). Is this something to worry about? Do you also find these parts of the rear braking system becoming hot after a ride, even when you do not push hard your brakes? As I am new on the CBR family, I have no experience to tell whether this is common or if there is something wrong on my bike.
 

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had the welder out today and decided to make my own tool. This should make the bleeding of the front power unit a lot easier. I can fit the silicon tube from my power bleeder right rought the middle of it and onto the brake bleeder nipple.

Just in case you are wondering; No I am not religious. This is proven by the fact that no deity would allow for such ugly welds :ROFLMAO:
 

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Hi fellas, I'd just like to say a big thanks to you all - sswiss3000, Savvas C and kensou for your various posts, information and links on brake fluid flushing/bleeding of your bikes. A special thanks to sswiss3000 for the uploading of the pdf detailing the procedures - good on ya.

Yep I too have the same issue as you have all mentioned and today I completed the bleed procedure, yet to do the test ride however I feel confident a) about it being successful, and b) to go through it all again at least annually. It's a great opportunity to dig around the big and do some other maintenance things.

Thanks fellas, happy riding
 
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