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Hey guys... been awhile sense I have posted here. I still got the 929. :)


But I have an idea in my head about selling it and getting the older 99-98 model and soupin' it up for fun. So my question is where can I get all the fun parts from. Like fairings (sharkskinz I have already looked at), jets for carbs, & cam shafts. All the part places I know of are for my current 929. (I will go ahead and ask while I am posting.) Does the 98 & 99 have the annoying 16" front rim, or am I confused there? Any info or personal input about the 900RR would be great.
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I have both a 900rr and a 954 rr. The 954 is my track bike while the900 is my street bike. The 900 is unbalanced, rough and not nearly as refined as my 954. I think you will miss your 929 sooner than you think if you are gonna trade it in for a 900. Oh yeah and good luck getting good/cheap tires for a 16" wheel.
 

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I know you can put/swap a 17" wheel on which ever bike had the 16" one. But I didnt know if it was on a 99'. My 929 is practicly a track bike. But I thought if I went to the track bike extreme on a 98-99 it may be close.
 

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yes u can swap the 16" front for a 17" front rim. front end will definitely feel more planted on the ground at higher speeds/turns.

but power wise its a problem to upgrade, putting in jet kits wont make much of a different... what u'll really need is a FCR (flat slide carb) which makes it pull like the power of a 954.
 

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What is the purpose for doing this? In order to make a 900RR somewhat competitive with a 929, you will be spending more on the 900 in parts and labor alone than your 929 is worth.
If you're doing it just to do it, and have no concern for the money you'll be throwing away, then go for it. May be a fun project.
Just know that regardless of how much money you put into it, the bike will never be worth more than $3K tops to anyone else. You will lose far more money buying and modding a 900RR than you would modding your 929 - both initially and when it comes time to sell.
 

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Resell value isn't much of a concern. Thats partially why I was thinking about doing it to a 900RR. And labor is not an issue. I will be doing the labor. I bet I could get more out of a 900RR than where my 929 is at now (cams, PC, full exhaust, ect ect ect...). But, none of that really answers my question. I am well aware of what is needed to be done and what the motor will do. Just wondering if the 900RR chassi has any qwerks.
 

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He's wrong on resale value.. a 98-99 is currently selling for $4,500 - $5,200 in Arizona. As for a jet kit I may be able to get one for you for around $40 give or take $15. As far as an aftermarket pipe goes...eBay. The 98-99 Blade has the best suspension/geometry out of all the 93-99 Blades. The 16" front wheel can be directly replaced with a CBR600F3 front wheel or you can buy a CBR F4/i front wheel and have the brake hub surfaces machines to reduce the overall width of the wheel so it fits the Blade. I've also heard some VFR wheels can be made to fit the Blade. As for front tires for the 16" wheel.. Dunlop is the only company i know of making the 130/70/16. It may not be available in their new line but deffinately a 208ZR is available. If your a tall person you'll probably find the 98-99 more comfortable to ride than the 929. The 900 weighs in at 410lbs dry weight so it will be heavier than the 929.

And about the FlatSlide carbs.... those are a big no no for the street because you'll have trying to ride on the street with flatslides that won't idle for crap or run below 4,000rpm for beans. Those carbs are made only for the racetrack where rpm ranges are above 4,000. If you want power gains on a 900 get an airbox modification kit... Lockhart Phillips may sell it. Do the jet kit also with a good full exhaust system. Synch the carbs once all that stuff is done and your good to go with more HP. Also Airtech may sell bodywork for the 900rr. You can also have the cylinder head ported and polished, but i would only let a Honda 900rr experienced porter do the job. As for camshafts the stock ones are awesome. The 93-99 900 frame and swingarm are stout and i have never heard of anyone having a problem with their frame or swingarm.
 

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Let me just add to what was said... with... Any mod you do to a bike is NOT going to increase it's resale value. Things like Exhausts, engine rework etc won't increase the value of a bike. There are exceptions but rare, few and far between.
 

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All depends on what you do really. Bolt on parts wont take away from the value, unless it is body panels.
 

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first of all ..excuse my bad english

there are a few ways to improove the 900 rr

the first thing to do is to make it lighter ..take of almost 40 KG ..
don't worry, here in italy it's been done by a friend ..it weights 148 KG dry
this is a track bike :

carbon tank (takes off almost 5 kg)
954 rear wheel ..much easier
17" front wheel
replaced all the screws with Ergal and Titanium where possible
he took off the entire wiring system ..put on only what's necesary for the bike to run
took off the battery and the starter engine
worked the front and rear frames,
fairing in VTR ..very easy
300gr of paint to paint the fairings


regarding the engine:
racing camshafts
shaved/port/polished head, high compression
dynojet
full exhaust
lightened friction (-600 gr)
lightened and balanced crankshaft
power commander
and much more ..

in the end he reached on the dyno 150 whp
 

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Well I happen to like my 900RR very much and no way would trade it for a 929RR even if the 929 has a higher resale value. The 900 is a very stable bike at any speed, twisties are always fun on the 900. Wheelies are no problem if that's the kind of power you want ( 122HP rated). Riding two up is fun and still comfortable. I won't say the 929 is a bad bike, just that Honda knew they needed to improve it, thus the 954 was introduced in 2002. Most of the reason i won't trade the 900 for a 929 is i have a lot of time and new parts on my bike. If i was going to look for another 900 bike i would deffinately go for the 954RR. This isn't to bash 929 owners. I know there is much in the way of improvment that can be done to a stock 929.
 

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Well I happen to like my 900RR very much and no way would trade it for a 929RR even if the 929 has a higher resale value. The 900 is a very stable bike at any speed, twisties are always fun on the 900. Wheelies are no problem if that's the kind of power you want ( 122HP rated). Riding two up is fun and still comfortable. I won't say the 929 is a bad bike, just that Honda knew they needed to improve it, thus the 954 was introduced in 2002. Most of the reason i won't trade the 900 for a 929 is i have a lot of time and new parts on my bike. If i was going to look for another 900 bike i would deffinately go for the 954RR. This isn't to bash 929 owners. I know there is much in the way of improvment that can be done to a stock 929.
The 929 was lighter and turned quicker than the 954 (both liabilities for many riders). Although down a few HP from the 954 (less than 6 by the time the smoke cleared) it was a decent platform. With not a lot of money (but a decent amount of time), I was at 154 HP and change with a platform that weighed ~ 374 pounds with fuel. Few bikes could stay with my 929 and it humiliated several GSXR1000s on the track in acceleration. Having said all of that, a 954 could approach this level of development with similar work although the weight differential would never be equal.
 

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And about the FlatSlide carbs.... those are a big no no for the street because you'll have trying to ride on the street with flatslides that won't idle for crap or run below 4,000rpm for beans. Those carbs are made only for the racetrack where rpm ranges are above 4,000.
WRONG.

With all due respect, have you actually ridden a bike with flatslides, or are your comments just an opinion?

I have 39mm Keihin FCR's on my '95 900RR. It has a Formula Xtreme race motor....2mm forged Cosworth overbore (945cc), Titanium rods, Erion endurance cams, 1mm OS valves, lightened and balanced crank and a decked/ported head. It put down 153.6hp and it pulls like a freakin train. It has a flat torque curve (over 76lb ft at the wheel).

It runs on 93 RON with no additives required, and starts first go, every go. It idles comfortably at 1300-1400rpm, and is perfectly tractable at any speed right up to redline....power 2nd gear wheelies are absolutely no problem. It has a small indicated flat spot on the dyno curve at 4000-5000rpm, but it's definitely not noticable when riding - if you respect the fact that they are flatslides.

I will admit that there is a knack to riding with flatslides (you just can't crack the throttle at 4000rpm), but if you are smooth and roll the throttle on through that 4-5k range, there is no better all-motor setup! With a well setup bike, flatslides are awesome.

Hope this clarifies things!:thumb:

PS. There is a set of 39mm FCR Keihins on Ebay Australia right now for sale (not mine).
 

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TTS Performance Parts Ltd

gonna stay outta the flatslide VS CV debate...

link above will do all mannor of cool stuff for any blade...

but certainly cams, big bores, carb kits etc etc etc

i test rode a 06 1000 with a view to changin my 97 900

hated it in all honesty & instead spend about 50% of the (97) bike's value on WP shock, springs + re-valve & scotts damper & now i have something special & unique to me..

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After seeing the 05's up close I have been leaning towards getting one of the newer bikes. Their weight placement is much better, noticeably improved. But due to budget I would probably be forced to get a wrecked 600RR and fix it myself. So I havent totally abandoned the 900RR idea.
 

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I own both the 929 and the 98 900 model. I've test ride both bikes daily in the last 2 weeks and I have to say, I have a lot of respect for the 929. All I have on the 929 is PC, Scott dampner, and Ak pipe and man does it rock and the pipe sounds great. The 900 is little more bulky (fat is the term). The only thing that I like the 98 CBR 900 over the 929 is the sound. My 900 sounded very clean when riding while the 929's are known for creating weird, unidentified sounds but that's normal. Buying parts for the 929 is much much easier than the 900 since 929 are made from 2000-2001. The 900 are made from 93-99 but parts changes so much between the years. As for performance-wise, I don't feel the difference between the two. The 1998-1999 has 919cc which is 10cc less than the 929. I hate those bikes that labels 600rr or R6 but actually has less than 600cc. I think I will puchase a 954 within 2 years because it has some awesome mods like swingarms.. I think all the CBR9xxx are great in one way or another it's all about what you prefer. No one can really tell you how great one bike is over the other.
 
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