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Hello Everyone, I am replacing the screen on my RR-P and I have a couple of questions ....... just to confirm, my bike currently has (had :wink) an OE screen with the OE 4mm pin fixings, see first picture.

Removal: I started trying to drill the pin shank out, but they just spin. So, I got the Dremel out and ground the pin back to the washer, at which point they dropped off (see second picture). However, in the mean time, I was having to drip water on the pins to cool them down so they wouldn't melt the fairing plastic. So my first question is: Is there a simple way of removing these pins?

Replacement: I bought some replacement OE pins/washers, but given the palaver of removal (unless it's simple and I was just being all mediaeval with the Dremel :devil), I'm thinking about using bolts/washers/rubber encapsulated retaining nut thingys (that is the technical name, anyway). Most websites are pushing me in the direction of 5mm bolts, which doesn't seem correct. However, I have found that some Italian bikes (beginning with D ending in I) use 4mm screen bolts. So my second question is: If anyone else has done this before, what fixing method have you used, please?
 

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Hello Everyone, I am replacing the screen on my RR-P and I have a couple of questions ....... just to confirm, my bike currently has (had :wink) an OE screen with the OE 4mm pin fixings, see first picture.

Removal: I started trying to drill the pin shank out, but they just spin. So, I got the Dremel out and ground the pin back to the washer, at which point they dropped off (see second picture). However, in the mean time, I was having to drip water on the pins to cool them down so they wouldn't melt the fairing plastic. So my first question is: Is there a simple way of removing these pins?

Replacement: I bought some replacement OE pins/washers, but given the palaver of removal (unless it's simple and I was just being all mediaeval with the Dremel :devil), I'm thinking about using bolts/washers/rubber encapsulated retaining nut thingys (that is the technical name, anyway). Most websites are pushing me in the direction of 5mm bolts, which doesn't seem correct. However, I have found that some Italian bikes (beginning with D ending in I) use 4mm screen bolts. So my second question is: If anyone else has done this before, what fixing method have you used, please?
I still have my original RRP's screen, and was boggled that Honda used the rivets to attach it. They went into the bin back then, using the plastic screws and well nuts. never looked back.

I will concede that the round headed rivet did look top notch :thumb:
 

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They do seem excessively over engineered, mine has the same, but I used off the shelf generic fittings with the rubber well nut for my Tiger.
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Did you use 5mm or 4mm fittings, please, Gunk?

Did you need to open up the hole in the screen to accept the "8mm" rubber well nut?

UpDate: The Tiger has 5mm bolts & Rubber WellNuts as OE, so the screen has a larger hole.
 

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I will concede that the round headed rivet did look top notch :thumb:
A bit of research :nerd found that these rivets are used on the RC30 and RC45 plus a lot of (Trick!!!) JDM CBR400's & NSR250's .... Baba-san applying best practice minimalism. :grin
 

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They do seem excessively over engineered, mine has the same, but I used off the shelf generic fittings with the rubber well nut for my Tiger.
Further research :nerd found that the Foxy :wink 'Blades had adopted as OE, 5mm X-Head threaded Rubber Wellnut fixings solution ......... so it is just the 92/93 RR-N&P that have these pins.
 

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The reason for changing my screen was seeing the broken off tab, but this was what I found when it was off ........ maybe that is why Honda migrated to the rubber fixings?
 

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I've ordered Black anodised aluminium 4mm dome head allen bolts, plastic washers with rubber well nuts. These 4mm versions being "for Italian bikes".

I will have to open out the 4x holes in the new screen for the rubber well-nuts, but hopefully, not by too much.

UpDate: I have decided not to use these fixings. The bolt head is smaller than the OE pin (!!!), which seems a bit small and does not cover up the fretting scratches on the fairing from the original pin heads. And, since I have to drill out the screen, I'm going for 5mm fixings (which, with a little coaxing on 2 of the fairing holes, are accepted by the fairing).
 

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I've ordered Black anodised aluminium 4mm dome head allen bolts, plastic washers with rubber well nuts. These 4mm versions being "for Italian bikes".

I will have to open out the 4x holes in the new screen for the rubber well-nuts, but hopefully, not by too much.
You could just put the well nuts pressed up against the back of the screen, rather than dropping them in from the top. That way you can keep the originality of the screen. As long as the bolts are long enough. I think I've done that on my track bike with an aftermarket screen.

Well nut.jpeg
 
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